Fact or ficition! Moon landing? Big foot? Spirits? Real talk!!

[00:00:03] Speaker A: Where are they? [00:00:04] Speaker B: They're probably upstairs. [00:00:08] Speaker A: They never answer the door. [00:00:10] Speaker B: Oh wait, it's Monday night. They're on the second floor. What's up guys? We're back again on second. Second floor. Thank you guys. Tuning back in with us today. We got a couple good topics. Just bear with us. We're, we're, we're. We're working through some stuff. [00:00:35] Speaker A: We, We've been arguing for about 45 [00:00:38] Speaker B: minutes, almost an hour. So we're going to bring it to you now because we think we got a little things ironed out. [00:00:45] Speaker A: So [00:00:47] Speaker B: I am a, I am not a full on conspiracy. Conspiracy theorist at all. [00:00:54] Speaker A: I love to hear him. [00:00:56] Speaker B: Well, yeah, I don't know if you [00:00:57] Speaker A: love to hear them. [00:00:58] Speaker B: I like hearing them too. Yeah. But, but okay, so we'll just kind of get into it. Our, our first. Let's. We were just, we were just talking about. We're talking about the moon and if we walked on the moon, if we've truly done that. And I don't want to say did [00:01:15] Speaker A: we walk on the moon or did we not? [00:01:16] Speaker B: I don't want to say whether we did or we didn't. But if the guys truly did, then I thank you for that. But I don't believe it. You'd have to. We're gonna have to be some more proof. Now I know Elon is sending. Elon is sending rockets to space left and right like it's candy at a parade. Now in 2026, 2024, 2025, he's sending them, but I just can't get on board back then that, that the technology was well enough. [00:01:49] Speaker A: You know what's crazy about that? [00:01:51] Speaker B: What? [00:01:52] Speaker A: Elon Musk is sending rockets to the moon. I talked to a girl. You made me just think of this when you said that, but I talked to a girl. [00:02:04] Speaker B: They're a lot better off right now. We was pretty hot about 30 minutes. [00:02:07] Speaker A: That used to work for Tesla. She said she couldn't let. They warranted the windshields constantly for cracking. How can you not put a windshield in a car that don't crack and then send a missile to space with people in it? How's that possible? So how about that? [00:02:22] Speaker B: That's pretty good. [00:02:23] Speaker A: Where's his. Where's his rockets going out of sight. Turn around. Anyway, so keep going. The moon and all. There's a lot of things that say the moon landing did not exist. Right. [00:02:36] Speaker B: Well, I can't trust anything that's put in front of me. [00:02:39] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:02:40] Speaker B: Back then, even back. Even back then, looking at the. That the footage and stuff, I haven't looked at it in a long time, but just from 20 years or not even 20, I'll say 15. Me, I'm a little bit more aware of things today than I ever, you know, than I was back then. But looking at it now, I don't trust anything that's been put in front of me on television. So for how many years ago was the moon? [00:03:11] Speaker A: I have no idea. I have no idea when they landed supposedly when they filmed it or landed 40 roughly. Do you know when the moon landing was? How you doing this? [00:03:23] Speaker B: Look it up. [00:03:24] Speaker A: Well, how do you. What do you know? [00:03:25] Speaker B: Is it not in the 80s? I don't know. Look at it. [00:03:28] Speaker A: Where you getting your information from? [00:03:30] Speaker B: It should be. Well, is it not? [00:03:32] Speaker A: I don't know. I'll look here. [00:03:34] Speaker B: It's 40 something years. [00:03:35] Speaker A: Well what are you. What are you getting at though? [00:03:37] Speaker B: Okay, well so what the television back then. So it's just like today. I can't trust that. I cannot trust at all. [00:03:45] Speaker A: My 69. Is that true though? [00:03:49] Speaker B: Okay, okay, so 69. There you go. [00:03:55] Speaker A: There's Apollo 11 mission. [00:03:56] Speaker B: So right there. If they did. But I didn't think there was supposed to be any wind on the moon. [00:04:03] Speaker A: Right? [00:04:03] Speaker B: Look at that flag. That flag is blowing in the wind here. [00:04:06] Speaker A: Let's look up. [00:04:07] Speaker B: Let's look at. So but I'm not taking away from if they did or if they didn't. I just can't trust the. The media the. Even back then they're just as corrupt as they are today. But we were talking about Bigfoot also. [00:04:28] Speaker A: Wait a minute. Have we been on the moon since then? Never. Nobody's ever landed on the moon since then. [00:04:34] Speaker B: I think so look and see if they had. I don't think so. [00:04:36] Speaker A: What's freaking stupid? [00:04:38] Speaker B: Why haven't we. [00:04:40] Speaker A: That's what I'm saying. [00:04:42] Speaker B: That's even more. [00:04:43] Speaker A: I mean I know we go to space and have space stations and crap [00:04:45] Speaker B: like that is the. [00:04:47] Speaker A: So yeah, you've got. It says let's see here. These are fake facts. Moon landing are actually debunked conspiracies including claims that the flag waved in a vacuum. [00:05:01] Speaker B: It was held by Rod the sky, [00:05:04] Speaker A: black stars, camera exposure settings, photos. [00:05:09] Speaker B: We've been on this a. An hour long topic of. Of arguing about different things. Whether we believe it or whether we don't. We should have had the camera on an hour and a half ago. But I just think that that whole. The whole scene, everything that you've seen and that we were taught even in school about that was a bunch of crap. I just. I can't get on board with it. [00:05:37] Speaker A: What are you saying? You need to see it again. [00:05:39] Speaker B: I don't want to see it again. Not right now. [00:05:42] Speaker A: Okay. No, I'm talking about going to the moon again. You want to see it happen again? [00:05:47] Speaker B: Why hasn't it? [00:05:50] Speaker A: Has it? I mean, I don't know that right here are reasons that show. [00:05:55] Speaker B: I'm just thinking like why they say [00:05:57] Speaker A: it couldn't have happened. These say why say it couldn't have happened. And then it gives like a reason to for what was going on and why it happened. So. [00:06:04] Speaker B: Okay, but will that. What do you think? I want to hear what you guys say. Oh gosh. [00:06:11] Speaker A: I don't want to be labeled as no or yes with that. I don't know. That's one of my answers. I don't know. [00:06:17] Speaker B: Well, I said the same thing. I said the same exact thing. But what do you truly think inside that heart right there? What do you think? [00:06:24] Speaker A: What do you think in 69? Nah, I don't think so exactly. I just said something about a windshield [00:06:30] Speaker B: cracking today, whatever it was, but I don't think. I just don't think the technology was there back then. [00:06:38] Speaker A: Yeah, [00:06:41] Speaker B: I wonder if there's a whistleblower out there about that. [00:06:44] Speaker A: Not yet. [00:06:46] Speaker B: I'm sure they are. Looked it up. [00:06:50] Speaker A: Here we go. [00:06:50] Speaker B: Let's see. We were really some of these facts that are these things that we've been told since we. That were born that everyone, everyone has shoved down our throats. I kind of look at it as a. A hoax. Just. I don't know. It's. [00:07:13] Speaker A: Ah, wait a minute now. [00:07:14] Speaker B: Let's. [00:07:15] Speaker A: Let's throw some facts out here because this says yes, there's been a total of 12 people, all American men, who have walked on the moon across six NASA Apollo missions between 1969 and 72. [00:07:27] Speaker B: Okay. Why haven't we done it since then? [00:07:29] Speaker A: I guess there ain't crap on the moon. [00:07:32] Speaker B: Today's technology. We can't just send somebody up there. [00:07:35] Speaker A: Yeah, apparently Musk can, but. [00:07:39] Speaker B: Oh well, I'll just. [00:07:40] Speaker A: Or at least a space. [00:07:41] Speaker B: All right, well if we can't, I'll just do what? What do you think? I need to know what your thoughts are on this. [00:07:49] Speaker A: I mean I feel like it was just too long ago. I mean, how can you do it? Freaking 1212 different people can do it now, so I don't know. There's too many. I don't know. I don't know. [00:08:00] Speaker B: I don't know, I don't know. [00:08:03] Speaker A: I don't know if we ever walked on the moon or if we didn't. If it was all made up crap. I don't know. I feel like movie. [00:08:10] Speaker B: I'm not a conspiracy theorist. There's a lot of things that I do believe, but. But as far as something like that bizarre, I have a hard time. [00:08:21] Speaker A: So speaking of bizarre, have you ever heard of Bob Lazar? [00:08:25] Speaker B: Bob Lazar? No, I don't think I have. [00:08:30] Speaker A: So here's another conspiracy theory. [00:08:33] Speaker B: Let's see here. [00:08:35] Speaker A: So, yes. So he was a Whistleblower for Area 51. Let's see here. Wikipedia can't be wrong, right? So look, Lazar claims to have obtained master's degrees in physics. [00:08:57] Speaker B: Area 51. [00:08:58] Speaker A: Yeah, he worked Area 51. Claims that he was. I mean he claims he was reverse engineering and engineering alien spacecrafts at area 51. So top secret center, Nevada. Nevada, as the locals call it. [00:09:13] Speaker B: I think Area 51 is a government. But it's the government. It is government based, but I'm just saying it's on high alert because of things that they are keeping from us. And for whatever reason that is. And this whole thing with UFOs and I totally disagree. Little green dudes, the little aliens. Little green dudes. I don't think that that's a. I think that is our government flying around in these UFOs that are pulling up to our jets and blowing, blowing the, blowing our jets out of the air with these UFOs. I believe that is all a. That's all government. I mean there's just. No, I don't, I don't believe in little aliens out there. That's if that's what's what we're getting at here. [00:10:06] Speaker A: Yeah, that's. I mean that's what I was getting at. You believe in aliens? [00:10:08] Speaker B: No. [00:10:09] Speaker A: Any kind of aliens? [00:10:11] Speaker B: Absolutely. [00:10:13] Speaker A: So you think anything. [00:10:14] Speaker B: I do have a cousin that she saw right here in, in Monroe County. A ufo? A ufo. And I never seen one which, which [00:10:26] Speaker A: is just an unidentified flying object. He just can't. [00:10:29] Speaker B: Well, it was a. It was a. A disc looking object that was left as fast as it came, that was [00:10:35] Speaker A: floating and it was quiet and it just sat there and then it sped off. [00:10:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:39] Speaker B: So what is that government, for whatever reason they're. They're flying it? I have no idea. [00:10:47] Speaker A: I think the government's crooked as can be. [00:10:49] Speaker B: They are, absolutely they are. [00:10:51] Speaker A: But I would rather believe, and maybe this is why people believe this though. I would rather believe that there's some type of alien life form somewhere out in the universe that we don't know about, rather than to believe that our freaking piss poor, sorry government is experimenting in unidentified flying objects and not telling, you know, the people of the United States anything about. I believe that's. That's why people probably believe in it. They would rather believe that than believe what might be happening. [00:11:21] Speaker B: Yeah, I get. I don't know. That's. There again, I'll. I'll say through. [00:11:29] Speaker A: I mean, you think the government can. And this is, this is a question. [00:11:34] Speaker B: Manipulate. They're going to manipulate you any way they possibly can. [00:11:40] Speaker A: But what I was getting at you, you've got. Do you think the government has the ability to have our jet fighter pilots flying in the air at mock whatever, and they've got some sort of technology that they've kept out of the hands and the, the eyes and ears of the American people, and it's not leaked somehow, and they're able to put this thing in the air and it fly up beside a jet, not making any noise, not having any kind of a movement to it whatsoever. They blink their eyes and it can speed off that fast? [00:12:17] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. Like what. [00:12:19] Speaker A: How are they doing that? Where are they keeping it? How does nobody else know about it? [00:12:24] Speaker B: There's somebody else out there knows about it. [00:12:25] Speaker A: Is that what's it? What is. Is it because we're reverse engineering alien spacecrafts at Area 51 and that's what you see do it? [00:12:34] Speaker B: Well, the human body can't. Can't. It can't. There ain't nobody in it, riding around in it. I don't think there's no, there's no [00:12:42] Speaker A: possible way in the vehicle, you see? [00:12:44] Speaker B: Yeah, there's no possible. [00:12:46] Speaker A: Unless it was an alien. Huh? Huh? [00:12:50] Speaker B: You're so full of it. [00:12:51] Speaker A: What? [00:12:52] Speaker B: No way. [00:12:53] Speaker A: If a human can't do it. [00:12:55] Speaker B: Well, ain't. Dang sure. [00:12:56] Speaker A: No, listen, again with this Elon Musk crap. Freaking Tesla can't even pull up here and let me get in it as supposedly it can. How they gonna. Freaking George Jetson something. Yeah. Up there at mock mach million. [00:13:13] Speaker B: Yeah, they ain't. [00:13:14] Speaker A: How's that? [00:13:17] Speaker B: It ain't happening. [00:13:18] Speaker A: Okay, so no aliens didn't walk on the moon? [00:13:23] Speaker B: I don't think so. [00:13:25] Speaker A: All right, I'm gonna throw a. I'm gonna throw a good one at you. Okay, Good one. What about that big hairy son of a gun? Ain't nobody ever really caught Bigfoot. Bigfoot. [00:13:37] Speaker B: What? [00:13:40] Speaker A: Now before you answer that question. Okay, before you answer. I'm going to answer Mine. I'll answer that question to me. Okay. I don't believe in bigfoot because I've never. I've never personally had anything happen to me. But there's stories all over the place. People swear up and down and just passionate as can be that there's a dag on bigfoot out there and he almost got him or something or whatever or her. [00:14:06] Speaker B: You know, there's a restaurant in Madisonville that is themed legends lore. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That you go to that dude and you tell him that bigfoot's not real and that that snoz will be busted for you. [00:14:19] Speaker A: Well, I mean, people are passionate, man. When. When something happens. I'm gonna go ahead and tell you, you're on your way home tonight on your motorcycle, okay? And a little deer is in the middle of the road, right? You swerve over, you hit some gravel. God, I hope this don't happen. I'm speaking into existence. You slide her down and you're fine. Scratches back up a little bit. That's it. You get up, you're like, oh, that freaking deer. Daggum it. And then all of a sudden, here comes a dag on bigfoot carrying that freaking deer back out of the woods right in front of you. [00:14:51] Speaker B: Okay. [00:14:52] Speaker A: You going to be like old snozzle buster down there. That's what's. That's. That's what's going to happen. Next time I see you, you. You're gonna wanna. Yeah, yeah. So when something happens to you, it changes the way you think about everything. [00:15:06] Speaker B: I probably having a concussion where I hit the ground. [00:15:09] Speaker A: See, you'd be coming up with something like that. Yeah. [00:15:11] Speaker B: See, I've done. I've done spoke it right. [00:15:12] Speaker A: I didn't say you got on your bike and drove off anyway. So fake or not fake, I've never had any experiences with that. I know there's a bunch of people that. [00:15:24] Speaker B: That have. [00:15:24] Speaker A: Maybe you watch this and you have. And there's people very passionate about it because they know something's out there that they can't explain. But I've never experienced anything myself. But. So I'm not going to say he's real because I've never seen it. I've never seen it, never witnessed it. But there's a lot of people who are truly passionate about making sure, you know, so that it's there. [00:15:44] Speaker B: Bigfoot out there. Why does he seem over here in. In South Dakota and. Well, last night he was over here in. It's like South Carolina. [00:15:55] Speaker A: It's like anything else there's just like people. It's a species. Yeah. [00:15:59] Speaker B: So there's multiple out there. Just. [00:16:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:16:01] Speaker B: Nobody's ever seen him or nobody has truly like caught him killing right out [00:16:07] Speaker A: or killed or something like that? No, but seeing. Yes. All over the place. All over the place. There's sightings all over the place, so. Okay. Well, guys, it sounds like this dude don't believe in that either. [00:16:20] Speaker B: No. [00:16:20] Speaker A: No bigfoot either. Ain't no big feet running around. No. [00:16:24] Speaker B: Now, I did run across the guy. He swore up and down. This is it. This is up in city co Mountains. [00:16:29] Speaker A: Okay. [00:16:31] Speaker B: In city co, that guy swore he. He said he'd swear on a stack of bibles that bigfoot's up in the mountains. He said he's seen him and he said was he was staying all night up there in city co. Now. [00:16:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:16:45] Speaker B: I've stayed on out in city co and said that he hollered all night long out there. And I said, you telling me he sat there and you can hear him all night long and you didn't do. You didn't go nowhere else? No, I was want. I. I was ready to kill him. I read I was going to be the first one. So you never seen him, did you? No, I didn't. He said. But I spotted him out there in the woods. I spotlighted him. You spotlighted. [00:17:15] Speaker A: Ah, it sounds like that's. I mean. I mean, don't sound like it's made up. I don't doubt that he spotlighted something for sure. [00:17:21] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, exactly. A freaking bear. [00:17:22] Speaker A: Yeah. Or whatever. Or. [00:17:24] Speaker B: Or. Or a. A, you know, a panther or cougar or something. [00:17:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:29] Speaker B: Which is up there. But you didn't see no dang Bigfoot swore up and down on stack of bibles. Okay. [00:17:36] Speaker A: Well, I mean, so now that story just spotlighting something don't hold water. So I listened to enough. [00:17:43] Speaker B: I mean, it would if it was. Looked like. Looked like it was about the size of you or me and fuzzy as I'll get. [00:17:49] Speaker A: Supposedly they're taller than that. [00:17:51] Speaker B: Well, whatever. I don't know how big they're supposed to be. [00:17:53] Speaker A: Supposed to be huge. Way bigger than man. So. Okay, so I can tell you this too. And I'm not trying to convince you. What I'm just trying to convince you of is that there's people. I know I'm not going to convince you. I'm not trying to convince you because I know I'm not convinced. Right. But I'm. [00:18:09] Speaker B: You're not. [00:18:09] Speaker A: I'm on the fence of there's a Bunch of wilderness in the United States. [00:18:15] Speaker B: On the fence on everything. [00:18:16] Speaker A: There's. I. I don't like to make decisions. I like to sit back and see what happens. But. But yeah, there's a bunch of wild [00:18:23] Speaker B: going to get a busted nose, right? [00:18:25] Speaker A: You. You might. Yeah, you might. You go down there and decide to get you meat lovers and. Wow. But anyway, so I. I would not say that it's not that Bigfoot can't exist. I just don't know of the existence. So, I mean, there's a lot of people, but there's a guy, right? You know, Back Creek Knobs. You know where the. [00:18:47] Speaker B: Off 72. [00:18:48] Speaker A: Yeah, the knobs run back through there by the Harrison's Dairy and all that. There's a. You. There's a Guy's got a YouTube channel that tells a story 20 years later about something that happened to him over there. Twice. Back to. Back when they were growing up. Used to go over and scare girls in cars and stuff and get out and walk up down the road and all that. That kind of stuff. Two times in a row. It happened to him over there. He tells a story about it that. I mean, I don't know that he. He doesn't say he knew what it was, but, I mean, he assumes that's what it was by how it was doing, what it was doing. There was a lady that lived over there who supposedly could see it in the moonlight. And, I mean, you're gonna see stuff you can't explain eventually. Now old Matt here, Now I'm sitting here. [00:19:34] Speaker B: I'm literally, as soon as you said that, I'm like, dang, nothing that I have seen except something I couldn't explain. Like. [00:19:41] Speaker A: Like, have you. Have you ever witnessed anything you just could not explain? [00:19:45] Speaker B: I'm sitting here trying to think. I mean, name one thing. Maybe. Maybe I'm not even thinking straight. [00:19:49] Speaker A: No, I haven't. Okay. I'm telling you, I. I haven't. Okay, well, I haven't either. I have not witnessed anything. I couldn't explain. Freaking GH magic. If you remember, Brody told us. Brody told us a story. Brody told us a story one time. Do I believe in ghosts? [00:20:05] Speaker B: Okay, go ahead. [00:20:06] Speaker A: Again. Again. No, I'm on the fence on that. I've not had it. What happened to me? [00:20:11] Speaker B: We're gonna have to take his fence down. Oh, boy. [00:20:14] Speaker A: Let's go to a dang haunted house, see what happens. You know, I. I don't know. I mean, until something happens to me. What do you want me to do? Just say no until something Happens to me. Is that what you want? [00:20:22] Speaker B: We're 40 years. We're working on 40 years old, and ain't nothing to this, any of this [00:20:26] Speaker A: that we've spoke of happen to us. [00:20:28] Speaker B: So I don't think the next 40 years, anything like it's going to happen. Except Elon Chance. [00:20:34] Speaker A: You know how many Bigfoot. I'm saying, how much? Elon's worth a lot more than like, [00:20:38] Speaker B: he's fixing to be first trillionaire. He's like 800, and something billion dollars right now. [00:20:45] Speaker A: Billion. [00:20:46] Speaker B: Couldn't even hardly say it. [00:20:47] Speaker A: What about it? What about it? So what does it matter how much money he's got? [00:20:51] Speaker B: I'm just saying he can go to the moon. Hey, he's got enough money to take everybody to the moon if we want to go. He's got the technology to do that. [00:20:58] Speaker A: But I don't believe it. Freaking tassels can't even have windshields in them. Don't cry. I don't believe it at all. [00:21:04] Speaker B: All right, so back to. Back to where you're going to go to this Brody story. We'll get to the go. [00:21:08] Speaker A: So Brody swears up, down when he was before his. Before they put that house up on the hill and they lived in that small house down at the bottom at the road. He swears up, down that two things happened to him. There used to be an old house across his little bit of yard he had there. And then, like, where his driveway went to his new house in the small one. There was an old house in them woods over there that wasn't really. Nobody really lived in it. I think there was people kind of in and out of it every now and then or something. But he swears when he's a kid that he saw red glowing eyes in that house. And he saw his dead grandmother, too, in his bathroom. He swears up and down this happened to him. Now you can watch paranormal stuff. You can watch Finding Bigfoot. You can watch all these other things where stuff's happening to people. I personally, I don't know. A lot of people have had anything happen to them. Like Brody says that happened to him. Okay, I. I don't doubt that. It probably did. He's a little kid. I mean, young, you know, but again, explain it. Explain it. [00:22:10] Speaker B: Even a spirit. But I don't believe in a. In a ghost that comes to haunt you. I mean, unless you accept that stuff in. Into you, you know, if you. If you. If you accept that stuff. [00:22:23] Speaker A: So you believe in the spirit, like the one that Jesus healed out Of Mary? [00:22:28] Speaker B: Absolutely. [00:22:29] Speaker A: Okay, so that would be. So you don't believe it could take some other kind of form then if it's. If it's spirit is floating around enough to. To be in a. Find a host body. [00:22:41] Speaker B: My sister used to swear up and down my mom and dad's house was haunted. My mom, dad's chair. They used to be a church. It was that their house that they live in right now used to be a church. The church that was up the road from them. And it was, it was part of the church. So our bedrooms, all of our bedrooms in there was actually Sunday school rooms. And she swore up and down that they, they was people that would turn lights on in the house. Off and on. I asked dad. Dad's like, I ain't never seen anything like that happen. They don't even. I've never, you know. But she swore up and down, she probably still does to this day, that there's. There was ghost in that house. Never seen, never seen, never heard, never did anything in my mom, dad says, but she swore up and down that there was ghosts and spirits inside that house. I think it was just behind. It was her. It was behind her. [00:23:32] Speaker A: So I listened to. I listened to a podcast one time. I think it was. I don't. I don't remember what podcast it was now. It was one of the popular ones out there. But there was. It was a. It was a military guy, retired military guy, who is a big time pushing Christianity and faith now and all this stuff, and now that he's converted. But anyway, so he's in the military, being in there for a while. He's in this. Some kind of a room where he's staying with all these other different dudes in this house. Two or three rooms in it, I don't know, anyway, and they're I guess deployed, doing this or something or on some sort of base maybe in the United States, I don't know. But he swore up and down that the place was haunted. Like losing sleep and having to go out and do military stuff. He's like, I can't take it no more. I can't sleep. I'm bothered by it or whatever. And I don't know what was going on, but it was, it was like supposedly everybody who stayed in that house, there's been multiple people say, you can't sleep in it. It had an eerie feeling, all these different things. Like it gave you the. It gave you the feeling that it was haunted. So anyway, he says that after, after a night of no sleep and Something messing with him. The whole time he. Nobody else was there. All of his buddies that he was staying with were gone. He called his brother, who is a Christian, and talked to. He said, listen, I need help. This is something beyond. I can't see nothing. I don't know what it is. Something's. You know, something's haunting this dang place, and I need help. He goes, okay, no problem. I'll get you in touch with my pastor. And he did. And then his pastor said, okay. And this is crazy, too. This sounds crazy to me right here. But he said, okay, no problem. Here's what you need to do. Put me on speaker. Put him on speaker. And walked around this house saying whatever in the name of the. You know, name of Jesus or name of the Lord or whatever. And he said, I literally had no more problems the entire time we were there. [00:25:36] Speaker B: Amazing feeling, he said. [00:25:37] Speaker A: We were gone like a week or two later, he said, and I became a believer. [00:25:42] Speaker B: That is an amazing feeling if you've never experienced anything like that. [00:25:45] Speaker A: Like what? [00:25:46] Speaker B: Like what you just said when it. When a dark oppression comes over you or comes inside of your house. [00:25:53] Speaker A: No, I've definitely never had that happen to me. Okay. Okay. [00:25:56] Speaker B: I don't mean it like that. I'm talking about. Okay, so. [00:25:59] Speaker A: So you mean just a feeling in general that follows you around and you can't. You can't get past it. [00:26:05] Speaker B: Okay, okay. So. So for me. [00:26:06] Speaker A: For me, I'm talking about a freaking haunted house here. Let's just make it clear. [00:26:09] Speaker B: I know that. I know that. [00:26:10] Speaker A: Go ahead. [00:26:10] Speaker B: But I'm. What I'm saying is this. This oppression. So we have been through a lot, and prayer for us is huge. I mean, extremely huge in our. In our house. I mean, our kids get sick. We pray over our kids when our. When we. When they're not. When they're afraid or they have. Or they're. You know, they're dealing with something inside themselves. We pray through ain't just like, figure it out, you know? So we pray through everything. We had at a. I don't know, this is probably a year or two ago. We had Ruby, my little girl. She was having terrible time sleeping, and she said she was scared to death when she went in her bedroom. So just like the guy on the phone, me and my wife, as a. As one. As. As we should, we went in there and prayed. Anything that was inside that room, that we cast it out to leave. To leave. We leave this house. Get out of this house. You are not wanted here. In the name of Jesus. [00:27:17] Speaker A: And. [00:27:17] Speaker B: And spoke the words, those words. And I kid you not, and I'm not lying to this. They've been. I've had two occasions like this. My wife. I didn't witness one, but this one, I. We walked through the house. Everything calmed down. There was something come back. I don't. We don't have. Still, I'm telling you, this is where if you've never. Maybe people. Maybe people don't see it like I see it like when I feel something in the house or kids come and they don't want. Just like she was. My wife went in there one night. This is another story. She went in there one night and Ruby. She wasn't sleeping. And she walks in there and for whatever reason, and we get around people and we can get things off of people that we don't. That if you're around them enough, you know, they're. If they have a. A dark side to them or they. Something that they can do. [00:28:13] Speaker A: Growls at them when they walk up, that kind of thing. [00:28:16] Speaker B: Okay. So. So that it's kind of. Yeah, there's something off. She. And then Alex told me this. She said she was having really trouble sleeping. And. And I believe it with 100% because I. I've witnessed it. And she said she didn't come and get me. She said I just prayed. Whatever was. You know, she was almost in. Not in convulsions, but in like. Just like a state of shock. She couldn't get her up. She couldn't. Like she was maybe in a dream. She couldn't get her out of the dream. Something had her captured. [00:28:51] Speaker A: Ruby. [00:28:51] Speaker B: Ruby. [00:28:52] Speaker A: Okay. [00:28:52] Speaker B: And she prayed to cast whatever was inside of her. She said she raised up out of the bed. Like, raised up out of the bed. And I don't know that she made any sort of noise, but Alex said it was almost as something came out of her body. I'm getting cold chills even talking about it because she told me about it. And once you experience something like this when you pray and cast things out, because to me, prayer is the most powerful thing. But when she told me that. And even today I still get cold chills. I'm thinking about it that. Just what you say of the guy walking around the room. Because that's the craziest thing you ever heard. [00:29:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:29:31] Speaker B: If you've never witnessed something like that or you've never been grabbed something. If you've never grabbed something like that and. And took it out of your house, just like I did that that time when she was. She wouldn't sleep. She's not had any issue since then. So I have a hard time. You know, I just assume when. When I say stuff like this happens, like, I just don't see how, like. And maybe. Maybe I don't know if we're just under attack more. I don't know. I have no idea. We all deal with things, but. But as far as a family. As a family, when we got together and we prayed in that bedroom and inside of our house to whatever that was, having them not sleeping, well, it went away. And it's never been bad. [00:30:17] Speaker A: Okay? So I've never experienced anything like that either. Either. To me, like, I've came closer to witnessing a big foot other than that. Now what I mean by that is I'm out in the open wild wilderness, Nobody around for, you know, miles or whatever and see something. Not that you can't explain, but that takes a while to figure out what it is. Maybe even so, like, why couldn't there be a bigfoot on back in there or something? It's my whole. I don't want to say it don't exist, you know, Like, I've never seen this freaking. I heard something hunting the other day that I've never heard in my life. I don't even know what it was. [00:30:55] Speaker B: I can't. [00:30:56] Speaker A: Still don't know what it was. I videoed it. [00:30:58] Speaker B: I can't get. I can't just. I just can't get on board with. People's been chasing this thing for. For years, and he ain't got. You ain't got up to him and grabbed him and pulled some hair off of him, or you ain't got up and shot him in the gut and killed him. [00:31:13] Speaker A: Yeah. I wonder if you get in trouble if you shot him. That's what I wonder. You'd have to be an idiot, Go around the woods and play tricks on somebody like that. You get your butt shot. [00:31:25] Speaker B: You wouldn't get shot. You get nobody shot at bigfoot. [00:31:29] Speaker A: I guarantee you I'd be the first dead one. Ain't no doubt about it. Somebody put one right through me. But I've never had any of those things that I've had to experience like that. I mean, [00:31:43] Speaker B: when I first got married, I thought. [00:31:45] Speaker A: I thought my. [00:31:46] Speaker B: My in laws were crazy about. Of talking about. Just like that pastor did, Putting the phone on speaker. [00:31:53] Speaker A: Well, I mean, I'm just like. It's just somebody talking. It's not. Well, somebody's not there is the way I was viewing that. That's what I'm Saying. [00:32:00] Speaker B: Yeah, I know, but I'm just saying even like with my prayer life and stuff, it's just you have, you can, you can speak things into existence. Just like me hitting a deer on the way home. [00:32:13] Speaker A: Oh, God, I hope it don't happen. Geez, I hope that don't happen. [00:32:17] Speaker B: So superstitious there. But, but speaking those things, I believe 100% now. I thought it was dumb when I first met him. I just did. I was like, that's, that's craziest thing I've ever heard. But I've never seen something. [00:32:34] Speaker A: You didn't think it was dumb from like a trying it standpoint. Right. You just thought it was dumb that it would work. Is that what you mean? [00:32:40] Speaker B: I never really. I believed in prayer, but I didn't believe in prayer. Prayer like that, you know, if you were dealing with something, like, if you were struggling with. With whatever it might be that you could actually cast those things out. And I still to this day, if, If I truly 100% believe that things get inside of our children and the things that they watch, the things that they're in. Great. That, that, that, that, that grab a hold of them and can try to take control of them. [00:33:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:15] Speaker B: And, and for me, other than, you know, trying to beat it out of them, which, yes, I have beat my kids, I've whipped them, I've. You know, we get weapons. [00:33:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:27] Speaker B: So, but, but, but these things that might be demonic or whatever, I. I have to cast those things out. [00:33:36] Speaker A: Would you sit through. If you had the opportunity to. Would you sit through an exorcism? [00:33:41] Speaker B: Absolutely not. I want, I want. [00:33:44] Speaker A: That is not what I expected you to say at all. I mean, like, you wouldn't witness it happening. Somebody casting demons out of someone. You wouldn't want to see that. [00:33:54] Speaker B: Demons. [00:33:55] Speaker A: So you're not talking a spirit, a demonic spirit. [00:33:58] Speaker B: No problem. When I wouldn't want. Okay. [00:34:01] Speaker A: Do you believe, do you believe that a spirit could overtake your body and make you do things? Yes, about that. Okay, well, that would be an exorcism. Well, casting them out. [00:34:10] Speaker B: That's casting them out. I don't know that I would want to be around anywhere where they could get to you. Absolutely. I believe wholeheartedly. If you put yourself in something like that, I don't think I would want to go watch somebody that would be truly amazing. [00:34:26] Speaker A: I don't think it would be so amazing. [00:34:29] Speaker B: I think it can happen inside of you, inside of me, inside of your, your, your, your. Your kids, your family, your. I. [00:34:35] Speaker A: But I don't mean to that level, not being able to sleep. Okay, like, whatever. I'm. I pick my nose. I can't get rid of it. Cast it out of me. Whatever. I'm not talking about little things like that. I'm talking about a freaking demonic spirit. Like, have you ever watched, like, exorcism movies or anything? Or somebody who's like, this is what I'm. [00:34:57] Speaker B: Exactly what I'm saying. Like, I don't want to. [00:35:00] Speaker A: You don't. You get around it. You. [00:35:01] Speaker B: I don't even want to get around it. I don't want anything to do with it. I don't even like going like, I used to go to haunted houses, not think a thought about it until I actually, like. And this is like my prayer life. And I. I just. I don't know why now, but I'm like, I don't want to go anywhere around it because I have seen oppression over someone and. And they don't even realize oppression over themselves or over their family or over. [00:35:29] Speaker A: You don't think you get anything out of that? [00:35:32] Speaker B: No, absolutely not. No, absolutely not. [00:35:36] Speaker A: I think. I think. [00:35:38] Speaker B: Who is. Who is casting it out of them? Is it them? Some kind of. [00:35:42] Speaker A: Some kind of priest or. Most of the time it's like a Catholic priest doing it in the movies and things, is what I'm saying. But like. Well, I'm talking about, like, have you watched the Chosen? [00:35:54] Speaker B: As a long time ago. [00:35:55] Speaker A: Okay, well, you know, when Nicodemus goes to cast a spell out of Mary and then Jesus is the one that heals her and she follows him. That's what I'm talking about. She was demonic. [00:36:05] Speaker B: Okay, if it was. [00:36:06] Speaker A: She was. I mean, she was like, killing people or like, cutting them up and doing all kinds of stuff. Like, maybe not killing them, but she was a demonic person who was out of the. The whole realm of everybody else. That's what I'm talking about, though. Do you know what I'm talking about in the, in the. In the show? [00:36:24] Speaker B: Yes, but. Okay, here's. I just. I would have to be very careful with something like that. The person, even if it is a priest. You know what I mean? I just. I can't. I can't. [00:36:37] Speaker A: Well, he couldn't do it. [00:36:39] Speaker B: Well, of course he couldn't. [00:36:40] Speaker A: He couldn't do it. He took. [00:36:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:42] Speaker A: Jesus to actually do it. [00:36:44] Speaker B: But I. I can't get on. That's where I'm going with that. Like, you have to have. You've got to have more power than it has. Whatever that, that demon you have to have more power than it has. And I don't think that I could have went in to my children's bedroom in my house and cast out demons by myself. I think I needed to do it with my wife. [00:37:09] Speaker A: Okay. [00:37:10] Speaker B: Yeah, I think I did. I think. I don't think it would have done anything. And I don't think. Okay, I don't. I'm just. [00:37:16] Speaker A: What's that got to do with anything, though? [00:37:18] Speaker B: I'm just saying, like, the. Where I'm going with that is the. You can't just do this. I can't just. If you were a. Or somebody walks up this stair and you've got something inside of you. I don't want to see the priest draw this demon out of you. I don't want to see that. I think that has to be something with private. No, maybe not private, but I just don't want to be around it. [00:37:46] Speaker A: You just want to stay away from it. The answer to the question was just no. It's all you had to say. You didn't want to be around it. [00:37:54] Speaker B: I told you, no, I wouldn't want to be around it. [00:37:56] Speaker A: But I don't know. I don't know if I would or not. I'm on the fence, dude. I think it'd be something amazing to witness, as long as they don't come over here and start bothering me. [00:38:04] Speaker B: Why would you want to see it? [00:38:06] Speaker A: Because it's amazing. [00:38:07] Speaker B: Do you not. Do you not just believe in that? [00:38:11] Speaker A: That can happen? No, not really. [00:38:14] Speaker B: You don't think so? You would have to see it to believe it. [00:38:16] Speaker A: No, I don't have to see it to believe it, but I would like to see it. I feel like. I mean, that would. That would be like. That would be like saying, wait a minute. Wait a minute. That would be like saying you go to Jesus to believe. Well, what's faith? No, you can't do that. I'm saying I've seen, you know, your level of what you've experienced and what you're talking about you doing. Don't want to take nothing away from that. That's wonderful and great, but it's here. Compared to some kind of demonic demon who's trying to come in your room and kill you at night. [00:38:48] Speaker B: Or like, okay, but what. How did that person get to that point? [00:38:52] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:38:53] Speaker B: What were they dealing with? [00:38:54] Speaker A: I don't know. Mary's backstory was pretty rough, I think, with. I don't know what all. [00:39:01] Speaker B: I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I can't I don't want to be around that. That. You have to. To get to that level. Level. I don't think I want to be anywhere near. [00:39:10] Speaker A: I want to witness miracles. I do. I want to witness miracles. You've witnessed miracles. [00:39:17] Speaker B: You have, too. [00:39:19] Speaker A: No. [00:39:19] Speaker B: That little boy that was in ICU for, however. How long was your boy in for? [00:39:27] Speaker A: Oh, my. My little boy? [00:39:28] Speaker B: Yeah. It's a miracle. [00:39:30] Speaker A: It's a miracle he's alive. Absolutely. But it was with machines, man. I'm talking about natural stuff. What do you think mine was? [00:39:39] Speaker B: Mine was with machines. Chemicals. [00:39:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:42] Speaker B: Poison. [00:39:42] Speaker A: You're right. I was referring to. [00:39:46] Speaker B: Say it again. [00:39:46] Speaker A: You're right. [00:39:47] Speaker B: Say it one more time. [00:39:48] Speaker A: You're 100% right. I was referring to Ruby, though. [00:39:50] Speaker B: I know. [00:39:51] Speaker A: Okay? I'm not referring to your boy. I mean, he's a walking miracle, too, just like my little boy. But still. [00:39:57] Speaker B: But. But what I'm saying is, I think we take. [00:40:00] Speaker A: But don't you dare compare RSV to cancer. Don't you dare. Don't you dare. [00:40:06] Speaker B: I'm just saying we both have to be blessed because we've both went through. It's still trying time. It doesn't matter. It's still a trying time. [00:40:16] Speaker A: You know what? I'm gonna say something that's not popular. I'm gonna say something that you're not gonna like. I promise you. And people ain't gonna like it. [00:40:23] Speaker B: Okay, look, that camera and tell and [00:40:26] Speaker A: mamas sure ain't gonna like this. 100 ain't gonna like it. But I swear to you, I'm not even kidding. How old was Coop when he's diagnosed cancer? [00:40:35] Speaker B: Two and a half. [00:40:37] Speaker A: There's a massive. And since then, you guys. Yeah. There's a massive difference in having something this long. [00:40:45] Speaker B: I knew you were gonna say that. [00:40:47] Speaker A: And not having it and something. You don't know a mama. So when. When. When. Avery. Oh, I know they are, but it's 100. It's 100. That's a fact. [00:40:58] Speaker B: Say that. I can't say that. [00:40:59] Speaker A: You. But you didn't. You didn't go through it. I mean, I laid there, or I sat there and looked at my newborn baby hooked up to ventilators and all kinds of stuff, thinking to myself, thank God this ain't Reese. That's what I was doing. [00:41:16] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm a. [00:41:17] Speaker A: Like, listen, this is terrible. I don't want my baby to die. Save his life, all this stuff. But I didn't know him. Like, Megan knew him. [00:41:27] Speaker B: That's what I was gonna say. Megan, carry him for nine months. [00:41:30] Speaker A: Megan has had that baby with her already for nine months. Nurtured it, cared for it, birthed it. [00:41:37] Speaker B: You gonna. I mean, this will get us shut down. [00:41:40] Speaker A: I'm just burst. It did everything. Birthed him, did everything there was for him. And here he is, you know, and now he's sick. She was abs. An absolute mess. An absolute mess. And I. I wanted. I wanted him. Obviously, I want him to make it if. If not even for myself or for himself, for her and. And the little brother at home who's worried sick too, you know? But that's what I thought is. My gosh, man, if this was my 5 year old, I would be an at. I would just be just destroyed if I thought something was fixed to happen to my five year old. And then. So then through that entire time, I battled with thoughts in my mind of am I wrong for thinking this way? But it's just human. But it was just like. It's like I didn't know him. It's like. It would be like if somebody else's kid was going through it. Almost. I hadn't even met this dude yet. Hardly. It was so. [00:42:47] Speaker B: I know that's hard to say. It is. [00:42:49] Speaker A: I'm. I'm coming clean. But that's. [00:42:51] Speaker B: Well, I know, but I mean, I'm saying I'm just. I still, to this day. [00:42:55] Speaker A: But there was a big difference what I'm saying. [00:42:56] Speaker B: Yeah, I know, but, but, but still, like Ryan's boy. [00:43:00] Speaker A: Oh my gosh, when that happened. [00:43:03] Speaker B: Oh, I don't even know. I mean, I don't. I say that, you know, I don't even know how I deal with my. I mean, Ryan's amazing. I mean, he's absolutely amazing. I don't. I mean, he's. I mean, yeah, that's. That's another thing that. I mean, I've never even asked him about it, so. [00:43:24] Speaker A: Oh, I went over there the next day. [00:43:26] Speaker B: I mean, I. I've. [00:43:27] Speaker A: I was at his house that. The next day, that next night I went over and it was terrible. And he was. He was good then. I mean, somehow now on the. On the outside. And from what I witnessed now, you shut a door and go on the [00:43:42] Speaker B: back side of the door. [00:43:43] Speaker A: It could have been. It could have been. Could have been terrible. But I was. I don't know, man. It's just. It's. It's different, you know, it's just different. [00:43:54] Speaker B: Anyway, I. I even struggle with it to this day. So that's just me. I mean, and my wife knows. I do. I still struggle with this day even though he's cancer free. It doesn't. It's this, this mind thing of where. You know, I always thought PTSD was a dude. You just need to, you need to just sit back and figure yourself out because you ain't got a control of your head. I can promise you that. You are 100% wrong if you think PTSD ain't real. [00:44:23] Speaker A: I thought. Are you telling me this? Oh, you're saying this to yourself? [00:44:27] Speaker B: This is what I thought. [00:44:28] Speaker A: Okay. [00:44:29] Speaker B: TSD ain't real. It's what I used to think. This is what the Matthew thought in 2017 on down. I thought, man, you just ain't got. You just need to, you just need to get a grip. [00:44:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:39] Speaker B: You need to, you need to work through some stuff. You know, that's what I thought. What was I wrong? You talking about a wake up call with that, with going through everything with coup and even to this present moment when a dude gets a fever, when the dude gets not feeling good, when his leg hurts him or this hurts. [00:44:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:01] Speaker B: Oh, it's just boom, boom, boom, boom. And you're going, you're going a thousand miles the wrong way. [00:45:06] Speaker A: Oh, I could see it. No, I could definitely see that. [00:45:09] Speaker B: So I mean, and I battle with that stuff daily. [00:45:11] Speaker A: I could definitely see that. [00:45:13] Speaker B: But I'm human, dude. [00:45:16] Speaker A: I know how bad that would be. I mean if I get a kid in the other room who gets sick, those up at night, boy, next night they make a peep, I'm like, God, don't do it again. [00:45:27] Speaker B: No. [00:45:28] Speaker A: You know, just. I mean it could just be like, just a cough in there, you know? Yeah. Did you, did he just throw up? [00:45:36] Speaker B: Did you hear that? [00:45:36] Speaker A: You know, so no, I, I 100 can get on board with that. Like that would definitely do that. [00:45:41] Speaker B: I don't need to be that way. I need to accept that he's 100% healed. Yeah. In the name of Jesus. So that's where I have to. But it's, it's not that easy. I'm human. I'm absolute 100% human. Yeah. And I deal with it daily. So I have to work through it daily. But to say I'm not going to take ever take anything away from his sickness to someone else's kid in the hospital and another kid in the hospital, it's just, you know, there's all different outcomes. But I under. I knew exactly where you were going with that. [00:46:16] Speaker A: You know, so it's real. [00:46:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:19] Speaker A: Yeah. And I don't know why. [00:46:20] Speaker B: There you go. You have to. And you have to struggle with that. [00:46:23] Speaker A: I don't know why. And I don't know if it was wrong. [00:46:25] Speaker B: No, I don't think it was wrong. You're human. [00:46:26] Speaker A: But to me, the only explanation I had was, you know, I just witnessed her caring more than I did about it. Not that I didn't care. Not that I didn't give him every opportunity and chance. Not that I didn't sleep on that stupid little fold out thing in ICU room for so many days in a row, you know, and go to work and go back to the hospital. Not that I didn't put forth 100% effort. I just, I fought with myself about how I should feel about it when it happened, like, because, because I didn't feel enough about it, if that makes sense, you know? Yeah, well, I get it. [00:47:01] Speaker B: I get it. So I'm not comparing our, your kids, our kids to animals, but if you've had an animal for, for it's a, [00:47:12] Speaker A: that's a perfect year. That's a fine example. [00:47:14] Speaker B: Yeah. 18 years you've had this dog and it's grew up with you, it's done everything with you and it dies. [00:47:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:21] Speaker B: Or you've had this, this, this little puppy that ain't got hardly a brain between its head and it runs up under a car in, in, in three weeks. Well, okay, just you, you move on. [00:47:32] Speaker A: And your five year old dog is still sitting there and you're like, man, I'll get another puppy. I'm glad it wasn't Rex, you know. Good boy. You know. Yeah, it's sort of the same. You don't want to say that, but [00:47:45] Speaker B: it's people you can compare it to. That. [00:47:47] Speaker A: Yeah, it's all the same. Yeah, it all ends up being the same. [00:47:50] Speaker B: It's all about, it's about comparing animals [00:47:53] Speaker A: for our kids, but it's about relationships. [00:47:55] Speaker B: It is something. Absolutely. [00:47:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:57] Speaker B: Well, I mean, at that time I could kind of say the same thing is this is my only, this is my only one. See, that's the only one that I've got. [00:48:05] Speaker A: That's where it would destroy me, destroy me. If I was like a paramedic. Well, or a doctor or a nurse trying to save someone's life. Like, you know, if it was a woman, I'd compare it to my wife. If it was kids, I compare it to my own kids. Ah, it'd be terrible. And I cannot leave work at home as it is. There ain't no way I'm taking that home. I mean, I couldn't do it I [00:48:29] Speaker B: just couldn't do it. Well, that's. I don't know. It's pretty. That's pretty good. [00:48:34] Speaker A: So how did we get off on that? We still got. What about that whirlpool? Chih. Tell me about. Yeah, tell me about that. That's one thing you were trying to tell me about. Tell me about that. Tell us all about that. So go ahead. [00:48:50] Speaker B: Wow. Well, that's gonna be. That's going back now. That was a. So two occasions I had two. [00:48:59] Speaker A: Same day. [00:49:00] Speaker B: No, no, no. [00:49:00] Speaker A: Separate. Separate. [00:49:01] Speaker B: No, this is like. It's like a year apart. [00:49:03] Speaker A: A year apart, probably. [00:49:04] Speaker B: I mean, as long as quite some time. This just happened with the, the, the, the paragliders. It happened this year, two, three months ago. [00:49:14] Speaker A: Okay. [00:49:14] Speaker B: And the first one I'll talk about was probably three or four years ago. Maybe later. No, so it's been longer than that. It's been several. It's been to the end at least two or three years. [00:49:25] Speaker A: All right, well, fill me in. Fill us in. [00:49:30] Speaker B: Heading towards the dragon Chill. How we dam. My aunt saw a whirlpool effect in a small body of water. I mean, we're talking. What. What is chill, Howie up there? [00:49:46] Speaker A: Probably anything. I wouldn't say small. It's small compared to like Great Lakes [00:49:50] Speaker B: and stuff, but it's not. It's not. It's not our lake here. Yeah, it's. It's just a run. [00:49:56] Speaker A: It's probably half the size though, isn't it? [00:49:58] Speaker B: No. [00:49:59] Speaker A: You don't think so? Which side? Upper dam or lower down? [00:50:03] Speaker B: I don't know. It's not, but it's not that big. But anyways, in the water was a swirling effect and we just looked this up and it potentially undoubtedly can happen. I don't. I still. I don't believe. I ain't on no fence about it, but the, the. [00:50:20] Speaker A: Oh, it absolutely happened. There ain't no doubt about it. [00:50:23] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. But I'm just saying whether. What it was. [00:50:26] Speaker A: It's like I had to tell. And we looked it up, but it's called a whirlpool. It's in water in case nobody's seen it. Like, like a, like a toilet bowl flushing whirlpool is. [00:50:33] Speaker B: But just a. Just a swirl effect like you. Like you flushed your toilet and the Dr. It's draining. But it was the first. She said it was. It was 50 to 60 yards. So I mean, a half a football field of swirling going on and she supposedly was like 20, 20 something feet deep. [00:50:56] Speaker A: How could she see down in it? [00:50:57] Speaker B: Well, I Mean, when you're riding on the road, I mean, if you can see. [00:50:59] Speaker A: Because it was off down. Okay. [00:51:02] Speaker B: And, and, and, and I've never really thought much about, like. Okay, whatever. Okay. Well, just a few months ago, I seen some paramotors and I was interested in paragliders. [00:51:17] Speaker A: Hang gliders. [00:51:18] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, hang gliders, but they're paragliders with the motor on the back with the fan. And I seen them, they, they come across my store, made a loop, and was coming back down in this empty field beside us. [00:51:32] Speaker A: Oh, really? [00:51:32] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, just right here. [00:51:33] Speaker A: Wow. I didn't know that I had always [00:51:36] Speaker B: been interested because you don't like, you go to school, I think it's 2500 class, and it gets you all the way up into doing your own thing. But you have to buy your motor, you have to buy your glide, your, your glide, all the stuff. So I went over and started talking to him. And one dude was. All he could talk about was that whirlpool. The whole time I was over there, that's what he was talking about. I thought, no freaking joke. So I've never seen anything. I've drove up through the. Through Chill, Howie. A bunch. And I've seen. [00:52:06] Speaker A: Trying to look. [00:52:07] Speaker B: I've seen motion in the water. Yeah, Just some different patterns, but nothing crazy. [00:52:11] Speaker A: But that's up in the mountains too. Yeah, that's up in the mountains. So. [00:52:15] Speaker B: Yeah, so I drove it multiple times. [00:52:17] Speaker A: There's probably a freaking cave system down there and water's actually going down and it's. [00:52:21] Speaker B: Well, it might be, but I want to know what's at the bottom of that thing. But that. The same guy said the same thing. He said it was huge. He said it was massive. [00:52:29] Speaker A: Huh. [00:52:30] Speaker B: And it was early in the morning. [00:52:31] Speaker A: Did she say it was early in the morning, too? [00:52:33] Speaker B: Oh, she would have been early in the morning for her. No, she don't get out till 12 o'. Clock. [00:52:36] Speaker A: Okay, well, so you go up there any time of the day. [00:52:39] Speaker B: It could potentially happen. [00:52:40] Speaker A: Yeah, but they said based on the data, the swirl. [00:52:44] Speaker B: The swirl was enormous is what those guys said. Unfortunately, I probably believe them more than I believe her, so. Okay. I really did. You know, when I put the two together, I was like, okay, there must be something about it, you know, because, I mean, if they're talking about it, I mean, they, they, they was up in the air for probably an hour. Ish. They said 45 minutes to an hour. And he said they just. All three of them. So, yeah, I don't know what was Going on with that, you know, and it wasn't even anywhere close to the dam. Well, she told me it wasn't next to the dam. I thought maybe something with the dam. Yeah, it's not. And you know, they both said it was way, way from the dam. [00:53:19] Speaker A: Well, I really wonder if that was like in the same spot. That would be something to that. [00:53:24] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. I don't know. I don't know about that. But. But I didn't really get much information out of them like I was wanting because they was all worried about the whirlpool and chill how way out there they're from. And they were from Florida. They come down here once a month to. To do this. [00:53:38] Speaker A: Wow. [00:53:39] Speaker B: Mountains. Yep. [00:53:40] Speaker A: Huh? [00:53:40] Speaker B: Yep. Florida. I got their cell phone number. [00:53:44] Speaker A: Speaking of Smoky Mountains, you see where the. Oh, what was allegiant. Allegianair is doing the dolly themed flight. [00:53:53] Speaker B: No. [00:53:54] Speaker A: Yeah. And there's a. So there's a. There's a flight that is fixing to take place this. This season. I don't know that you can get on. It's the. It's the flight. The 925. 925 flight. So 9 to 5. Like the song. 9 to 5, the Dolly Parton song. Anyway, you. It comes out of Orlando, Florida, flies up here to McGee Tyson, and it's for people vacating in the Smoky Mountains and going to Dollywood. You purchase your Dollywood tickets or whatever, get on this theme flight. You get like activities and different. I don't know, just like a normal flight, I guess. But it's. They've announced they're doing it. [00:54:30] Speaker B: So it's like a tour. But you get on a flight. [00:54:34] Speaker A: Tour. [00:54:35] Speaker B: You said you fly where you say [00:54:36] Speaker A: you fly From Orlando. Okay. To McGee Tyson. [00:54:40] Speaker B: To McGee Tyson. [00:54:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:54:41] Speaker B: And this is a dolly fly. [00:54:43] Speaker A: A dolly themed flight. [00:54:44] Speaker B: It's almost like a tour. [00:54:45] Speaker A: And you're going to Dollywood? [00:54:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:54:47] Speaker A: You. [00:54:47] Speaker B: To go to Dollywood. So I can't even. What would that even cost? [00:54:51] Speaker A: I don't know, $400? I. I look for $200. You mean at Dollywood? [00:54:57] Speaker B: Dollywood's ridiculous. [00:54:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:54:59] Speaker B: We used to get season passes. I ain't paying. Yeah, passes. And you got these blackout dates. You can't go if I'm paying season passes. I need to go whenever I want to go. [00:55:08] Speaker A: I ain't going to Dollywood. [00:55:10] Speaker B: I'm. [00:55:11] Speaker A: I've been enough. I ain't going up there. [00:55:13] Speaker B: Too crowded. Take my kids and let them ride on roller coasters. The last time we went was just a Few months before we got diagnosed. And I've never been back, Never bought a ticket. [00:55:24] Speaker A: We've been since then, but not Avery's never been. [00:55:29] Speaker B: He's not. [00:55:29] Speaker A: No, we've not took Avery. [00:55:31] Speaker B: I mean, I took Coop and that was it. And Ruby's never been. She wants to go, but I'm like. I don't know. We. I mean, we might. I mean, we do so many season pass tickets everywhere. I might splurge and they're too dag. [00:55:43] Speaker A: I'm expensive. But you. Did you know that the. [00:55:48] Speaker B: The. [00:55:48] Speaker A: I don't think the gold pass tickets no more. They don't come with free parking no more. [00:55:52] Speaker B: No. It's like, still like $35 to park. 35. 40 bucks. Can you imagine parking and why. And. And having to pay $40 and walk three and a half miles. [00:56:04] Speaker A: I've been up there from Splash Country. Yeah. Over in Splash Country's parking lot. I'm not now. I've never parked, but I've, like, left in the afternoons and they're parking over there. [00:56:15] Speaker B: I might. [00:56:17] Speaker A: That's crazy. [00:56:18] Speaker B: I've never seen. Where did everybody come from? I used to remember parking in. In. In D was bad. [00:56:25] Speaker A: Well, that's when. Back then you went in a different way and everything. Remember the old way? [00:56:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:31] Speaker A: You used to go in that way. [00:56:33] Speaker B: That was the golf course. [00:56:35] Speaker A: That was back. Yeah, I was back when it was good. Yeah. Yeah, it was back when it was good. That's Gatlinburg. [00:56:40] Speaker B: My cousin used to. We'd go back to her again. [00:56:42] Speaker A: That's Gatlinburg Country Club. Oh, I'm pretty sure it's what it's called. [00:56:46] Speaker B: I don't know about that. [00:56:47] Speaker A: I think so. [00:56:47] Speaker B: I thought you said it was in Gatlinburg. [00:56:49] Speaker A: No, but I believe that's called Gatlinburg Country Club. I think. Unless I'm so me. [00:56:55] Speaker B: We would. We only done this, like, one time. We tried it. We didn't work. We tried parking. Staff parking. [00:57:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:57:03] Speaker B: We went. We went and rolled up into it and those. No, that was no gatekeeper there. But you rolled up to it, and the gate automatically went up. Oh, back then. I mean, this was just when we. When he started driving. I was still probably 13, 14, something like that. And he's 16, so. [00:57:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:57:21] Speaker B: And we roll up. [00:57:22] Speaker A: Who was this? [00:57:23] Speaker B: It's Kevin. Oh, Kevin. Okay. And we tried it one time, and he got. I don't even know if we. I don't even think we had Got to park and we told. I think. I think he may have. We Somebody told him that we were lost, we didn't want to go. We was like, oh, we don't know where to park at. She's like, you need to keep going way down down there on the left. [00:57:48] Speaker A: And. [00:57:48] Speaker B: And so we went down there and parked. But we tried to get in staff park. We actually got inside of it, and then we had to make, like, a U turn. There's no parking in there. So they weren't anybody there because. Because of his full. And it said staff. [00:58:03] Speaker A: That wouldn't have worked anyways. [00:58:05] Speaker B: I remember going past that. Speaking of that golf course, and he'll remember this. We was going past the golf course, and when we were young, I mean, we used to do dumb stuff. And I went past that golf course, and we're blowing a horn and yelling and hollering at him. You know, when somebody's fixing the swing, you know, we're going by real slow. [00:58:24] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:58:25] Speaker B: Know. And I remember the guy, and I never really understood it until I grew up and got older. Grew up, got older. The guy yells back at us, and he asked, does your mother have any children? And for the longest, and I still don't fully get it, but that's what he asked us. He said, does your mother have any children? And I don't know if he was trying to insult us, acting as if we, you know, we were just a bunch of, you know, Aliens. [00:58:55] Speaker A: Yeah. Not. Not children. [00:58:57] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or. Or. Or maybe he thought we were older or so. I don't know exactly what he meant, but I think he was talking about us just being a bunch of aliens is what he was talking. [00:59:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:59:08] Speaker B: But I never really understood. I thought, well, that guy's an idiot. [00:59:10] Speaker A: What does he mean by that? [00:59:11] Speaker B: So it's really deep what he said. [00:59:13] Speaker A: We. [00:59:13] Speaker B: I don't think they ever really fully understood. [00:59:18] Speaker A: And just off. Just on a reply, he got you. You never thought. You've never forgot about your entire life. He said one thing to you. What a powerful man. What a powerful guy. [00:59:31] Speaker B: Going there. Soon as he pulling his stroke up, we'd blow on the horn, you know, and he was the only one that. [00:59:37] Speaker A: That. [00:59:37] Speaker B: I mean, we've done it multiple times. We used to go all the time up there and. [00:59:44] Speaker A: All right, so this episode I've got out of. [00:59:46] Speaker B: Let's. [00:59:46] Speaker A: Let's. Let's condense this thing down and let's [00:59:49] Speaker B: see what we got out of this. [00:59:50] Speaker A: We got. We've got. [00:59:53] Speaker B: We have been. [00:59:54] Speaker A: We don't believe in Bigfoot or you don't. [00:59:57] Speaker B: You. You're Everything. You. You're still on the fence. You're straddling. Keep going. [01:00:02] Speaker A: Bigfoot may or may not be real. He doesn't exist. Aliens may or may not be real. Definitely 100. Don't believe they could be. You do or do not believe that there's. That a body of water can swirl in a whirlpool. Is that a fact? Now you got that believe that can happen. [01:00:24] Speaker B: I've never seen it before but. [01:00:26] Speaker A: Huh. [01:00:27] Speaker B: I'm assuming it can happen because I believe the paramotor guys. The paramotor guys. [01:00:31] Speaker A: Okay. All right. [01:00:33] Speaker B: I just love to see it. I want to know where it goes. Where's it going? That's all I want to know. Where is that? Where's that swirl going? It has to have a hole. [01:00:39] Speaker A: Where's them turds going? [01:00:40] Speaker B: Where's them things going? [01:00:42] Speaker A: All right. [01:00:43] Speaker B: So your. [01:00:44] Speaker A: Your moon landing staged fake. Didn't exist on the fence. [01:00:50] Speaker B: You're. [01:00:51] Speaker A: And. And I'm. Yeah. I don't know. Didn't go with them. [01:00:54] Speaker B: Couldn't tell. [01:00:55] Speaker A: You didn't see him filming it? [01:00:57] Speaker B: 69. It wasn't in 80. [01:00:59] Speaker A: So it's pretty. It's pretty. [01:01:01] Speaker B: Yeah. I missed about. Yeah, I missed about 11 years. [01:01:04] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, we got that fixed. You believe in spirits being able to be casted out but don't want to witness it. And I. And I do would like to witness some stuff like that. Let's see here. What else we got. What was the last thing? Oh, Dollywood's way overpriced. Went all the way back to Dollywood somehow. Yeah, you got to sit kids somehow. Okay, that's good. I think that's enough. [01:01:36] Speaker B: Okay. [01:01:36] Speaker A: I think it's enough. That's a broad spectrum. [01:01:39] Speaker B: That was good though. [01:01:42] Speaker A: Guys. Thanks for joining us again. Second floor Monday night. [01:01:46] Speaker B: Thank you guys. [01:01:47] Speaker A: See you next time.