Who should raise your kids?

[00:00:03] Speaker A: Where are they? [00:00:04] Speaker B: They're probably upstairs. They never answer the door. Oh, wait, it's Monday night. They're on the second floor. [00:00:24] Speaker A: Hey, guys. Welcome back to second floor sessions. Today we're going to cover a topic that is probably unpopular, that a lot of people probably wouldn't want to hear about. From both sides. From both sides. Both ways it can go, though. So we've been seeing a lot of stuff. I see it almost every day on one side of it. But we're going to talk about raising kids and parents who. The lack of. Or don't raise their kids to be [00:01:02] Speaker B: a civilized kid or they're still a kid themselves. Yeah. [00:01:06] Speaker A: And then the ongoing issue in this world, and I'm sure somebody knows a grandmother or a grandfather who's having to raise their grandchildren because the kids ain't worth crap or whatever the situation may be, so. [00:01:21] Speaker B: Well, I have. I have family and friends, and that can. I can relate heavily to that. But, you know, when I was growing up, I always. I never did want kids. Never did. I want kids. [00:01:36] Speaker A: I did. I did. [00:01:37] Speaker B: I didn't. Well, I. I never was like, I want kids. I never thought about. I want kids. I'm like. I like being kind of like the single life, like, doing my own thing. Nobody's going to, you know, nothing's going to. I didn't think that kids would be so demanding as, you know, and how much attention they need when they're. When they're even newborn. All the way up until 10 years old, they still need attention. [00:02:01] Speaker A: You think a newborn's hard until they become a toddler, and then the toddler becomes. [00:02:05] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:02:05] Speaker A: Eventually. It does get easier, though. [00:02:07] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. [00:02:08] Speaker A: It is going to get easier for us. [00:02:10] Speaker B: They take a lot of attention, care, [00:02:12] Speaker A: a lot of time, a lot of money. [00:02:14] Speaker B: Yeah, it is. It is difficult. Yeah, it is. Another thing, budgeting. I mean, man, you. You got a budget a dang kid anymore. I mean, you have to for sure. Diapers, $50 a box and baseball lessons, 45 a pop. Yeah. See there? [00:02:29] Speaker A: Reese wants to go to 4H camp this year. That's 350. [00:02:32] Speaker B: Yeah. You know. Wow. [00:02:34] Speaker A: I mean. Oh, yeah. This goes on and on. You know, we're talking about once here, not needs. [00:02:40] Speaker B: So it takes a lot. It takes a lot out of. Out of us and out of the. [00:02:43] Speaker A: You know, it takes a lot of effort, and I don't think a lot of people are willing to put forth the effort that it takes to do it. [00:02:48] Speaker B: Right. The true effort, the actual. What it is to make. To make do it right to make it happen. [00:02:53] Speaker A: Yeah, that's where we're lacking. [00:02:55] Speaker B: I was in today's world, I was, you know, with a toddler, you know. Yeah, you're pretty, it's pretty dependent on you. But you know, when you have, when you have kids back to back, you know, I could not imagine having two toddlers that are within a year apart running around. I look at what I have. I've got a 10 year old, I've got a 6 year old and I've got a 2 year old. So they're decently spaced out. So I have literally bought diapers for 11 years. 11 years I've bought d. I have never stop buying diapers for 11 years at $50 a box. But it's fixing. I mean he's, he's about to the age to where he's actually already, you know, trying to be potty, you know, be on the potty and stuff. But anyway, when you decide, you know, to have a kid and to raise that kid up right, man, it takes, it takes some effort. It takes a lot of effort to raise a kid because you gotta do [00:04:04] Speaker A: things that you don't want to do. [00:04:06] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. And this day and time you have to be careful with the way your kids, who they're around, who they're, you know, you just don't let your kids go to somebody else's house now that you don't really know them. You know what I mean? Like we used to, I mean we used to just go to somebody's house and stay the weekend. [00:04:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:04:25] Speaker B: Get off the school bus with them. I bet you kids don't even know if kids can do that now. We used to have a. You'd write a, handwrite, a note to your school bus driver that hey, Bo's getting off the bus with Matt today. Oh, okay. Yeah, sure. And you know, which, I mean where we're from, I mean most of our bus drivers and stuff. Knew who you was. Knew who I was. Knew our parents. [00:04:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:04:48] Speaker B: So. But getting away from that, the parents of today, a lot of them suck. A lot of them just suck. I mean, it's just, it just is. Agreed. You know, I see some friends that, that, that I have and some other people that I know and, and dude, they just, it's, it's, it's actually sad that their kids are being, you know, ain't having the right discipline that they need. Yep. You know, you said it's discipline. Yeah, they don't have that. And you know, even in the school system now, you Know, I wished it was back. Like, my kids are homeschooled. But everything that's going on in the schools, you guys are public school. I like public school. You know, if I don't have a thing in the world wrong with public school, but the only thing that I don't like somebody, like, if my kid talks back to you, you have every right to smack him across a mouth. Yeah, yeah, but see, there's so many parents out there that don't. This gentle parenting bs. Oh, yeah, that. Oh, we just need to. We just need to talk. Talk. Talk it through. Well, that don't. That don't work. You're raising hellions is what you're. [00:06:03] Speaker A: If it's so bad, how do we turn out like this? [00:06:05] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. Yeah, I know. [00:06:06] Speaker A: You know, that's. [00:06:07] Speaker B: That's what I. I tried to. And I still do to this. You know, it may change when they get older, but I can drop. I can drop the dang recliner at the house and they know somebody's moving [00:06:21] Speaker A: when they wasn't before. [00:06:22] Speaker B: I know things are fixing to hit the, you know, craps fixing hit the fan. Dad is getting up. You know, I can make that thing, you know, recliner make some noise. And they. Their attention has been got, you know, and I think that you have to have that. [00:06:37] Speaker A: And that's sorry, though, too. That's sorry for the moms. Like my wife. It's the same way. I mean, if I've got to get up, it's too late. [00:06:46] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, yeah. [00:06:47] Speaker A: Like, if I'm having to intervene, it is too late. Like, it's. It's bad. [00:06:52] Speaker B: So that's why they know that. [00:06:54] Speaker A: Yeah. I wish it wasn't like that. I wish. I wish they just, you know, do [00:06:59] Speaker B: when they're told because you don't. We don't like doing that. You know, we don't, like, discipline them. But. But going back to the parents, man, you know, I see it in the stores. I see it in my family. I see it in. Man, the parents ain't even raised yet. What we're supposed to do. This is just my perspective of it. I love my kids to death, but at the end of the day, it's me and my wife. At the end of the day, no matter. [00:07:29] Speaker A: All I am doing, supposed to be. [00:07:31] Speaker B: It's the way it's supposed to be. I don't. I don't want to put in. I don't want to put all myself in my kids. Because what we're supposed to do as parents, we're Supposed to raise those kids up to be functioning adults. That's what we're doing is trying to guide them in the right direction to be sustaining life and trying to make it in this world. You know, I don't. Some parents wrap up so much identity in their own kids, you know, like they just lose like their own identity and then they try to, you know, they put their kids up on this high pedestal to where, you know, when they fall, you know, or I'm talking about when something goes wrong, you know, it's the end of the world to the kid. Just as good as your son is at baseball, you know, you ain't all high fiving. Well, you know, he done so good at this baseball game, but you know, where you screwed up, it was right here and right here and right here. [00:08:37] Speaker A: Yeah, you got to point the flaws out. [00:08:39] Speaker B: Yeah, but, but so many parents don't do that stuff. Oh, you did so good. [00:08:43] Speaker A: It's hard for me to do it the other way. Yeah, it's hard for me to offer all the praises that they need. You know, I'm the opposite of that. [00:08:49] Speaker B: Well, and that's, but that again is, I think that's the dad's role. Like that's, that's the way we should be. [00:08:55] Speaker A: With that ball I hit, I saw the ball you missed. [00:08:58] Speaker B: Exactly. That's what I mean, you know, and, and you know, it's. Oh my goodness, it's so sad though, you know, you have, you know, I was talking to Casey and she told me, she said there's. You wouldn't believe how many people like in Teleco Village are having their, their 35, 45 year old families coming back home, their sons and daughters, and bringing their kids with them in the village to where they ain't even got a home. Now they're living back with them, with them. They probably got a 500,000 square foot home. But regardless, they're living with their parents now down in Loudoun for. [00:09:50] Speaker A: To help raise the kids. Is that why? [00:09:51] Speaker B: Or they can't afford. So I don't know. I don't know what the circumstances are, but a lot of them are funneling in down there. The only reason, you know, it was because of, you know, I assume is because it didn't work out for them, whatever the case may be. But so many don't have, you know, they're living with their moms or their grandparents or living in somebody's basement or whoever. I mean, as an adult, you gotta get up. I mean, that's not a good role Model to set for your kids. You know, my kids know and your kids know. Like, dad gets up before we get up and he's gone and he gets back home. That's how it works. [00:10:32] Speaker A: After supper's ready and after Whatever. Yeah, I'm gone before you're up and I'm back at dark or whatever. [00:10:40] Speaker B: Yeah. So it's, to me, I mean, I just feel like, you know, the structure that I had when I was growing up is you get up, you get ready, you go to school and then you come home and you know. Well, these kids, even some of the homeschool kids and some of the, you know, it's so hard for them to be structured like that. [00:11:12] Speaker A: It is for sure. Because they don't have to get out of their pajamas. [00:11:15] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. [00:11:16] Speaker A: It's terrible. [00:11:16] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You get up. Well, if I don't want, if I just want to wear my PJs to school, I can do it. [00:11:22] Speaker A: Now what do you guys do? Do you guys make them, you guys treat them like it's a, you know, that's perfect. We talked about that at work. You know, these, these homeschool kids, they can't even get to work because they've never done anything like that. [00:11:34] Speaker B: Yes, absolutely. [00:11:35] Speaker A: They were able to lay in bed till 9 o', clock, take a few tests and wear pajamas all day. [00:11:39] Speaker B: That's exactly. [00:11:41] Speaker A: That's ridiculous. [00:11:42] Speaker B: If, if, if that's what parents are doing at homeschooling their kids, they're just setting them up for failure 100%. If you ain't getting them up and, and my kids get up, it coops up. He's. Sometimes he's up before I get up. He's usually a six o', clock kind of guy. Yeah, he's up at six. Ruby may get up at seven, something like that. But everybody's up by 7:15. Yeah, you know, everybody's up by 7:15. And Coops usually ready to get his schooling and get it out of the way. He just would rather do that instead of Ruby's totally opposite. She'd rather wait till the end of the day and barely get her to do it. She's poor like me. Alex's coops like Alex in so many ways. Coops just get up, get it done, you know, way that the way I used to be. Ruby's like me, like, I'll get it later, I'll procrastinate all the way to the end and I'll do. I'LL get it done, but it'll be while I'm, you know, fixing to fall asleep sort of thing. But we don't. We don't let her do that. I mean, we. She's very, you know, get up, get it done. Soon as your brother's done, start your lesson, you know. But, yeah, the homeschool movement. This is just, you know, me looking because I am in the home school, and I see it. A lot of people take it very, like, as a joke. I mean, like you said, they, they. They probably. They. They stay in their underwear and sit there. Well, you are taking that kid, a public school kid, and they're going to be able to function. They're gonna be able to talk to the kids, they're gonna be able to talk to, you know, they'll be able [00:13:17] Speaker A: to work on time. [00:13:17] Speaker B: They'll be able to get up and get functioning. [00:13:20] Speaker A: They'll be able to be given tasks by different people and know to get it done. [00:13:24] Speaker B: Absolutely. [00:13:25] Speaker A: And not argue and figure out how to solve problems. I mean, it's just. It's a big problem we're actually going [00:13:31] Speaker B: to try to implement at our house, my little shed out back. We're gonna make it a permanent school. So that's where they go for four to six hours a day. They go down there. It's got all your school, all your books. It's got all your tech. It's got. Everything down there stays down there. It stays out of the house. So it's almost a separation between the two. So that's where you go for four to six hours. You know, we're gonna make it. I'm. Hopefully we'll do it, because. How much school do they have left? A couple weeks. I mean, a couple months. 40, I think Alex said like 40 or 40. [00:14:11] Speaker A: So disconnected with school, because I work all the time. [00:14:13] Speaker B: It's like 40 or 50 days, something like that. [00:14:15] Speaker A: I know. Avery starts kindergarten in August. [00:14:17] Speaker B: Golly. It's hard to believe. Yeah, but, but, but no, the. The parents, man, are. I see so many, you know, and it's sad for the kids, but so many parents that just suck. Like, if you just let me have that kid. Because everybody. I don't want to put anything on a kid, but so many parents are so quick to say, oh, he's got. He's autistic or he's adhd. Adhd. Or he's. Yeah, all these other things. And so he can just act that way and it's fine. It's not fine. I have a cousin that was Raised by a mom, didn't have a dad in the household. And I see him today, he's functioning everything. He functions and does all the things, but. Well, he's autistic. Well, he's autistic. No, he's not. I can sit here and have a conversation with him. He didn't have his britches beat off of him. [00:15:20] Speaker A: And there's different levels of autism, though, just so we're all clear on that. [00:15:24] Speaker B: They are absolutely. No, I'm not taking autism and saying there's not. It is. Autism is a thing. But just because you have a kid who has behavioral issues, don't classify him as. [00:15:34] Speaker A: That could be your fault. [00:15:35] Speaker B: Yeah, that is your fault in this case. Absolutely. You know, or they're kicking. You know, you go to their house and they're kicking and screaming and beating and, and. And, you know, you've got to, you've got to nip that crap in a button. But immediately, if you don't. [00:15:56] Speaker A: Man, I've seen so many. I mean, I deal with this, you know, I'm hiring people and working with them and trying to figure out who they are. Now, I've seen this through the years. I don't deal with this right now. But I mean, what happens if you just continually tell your kid, yes, yes, yes, and give and give and give [00:16:16] Speaker B: and you're doing, you're the best and [00:16:18] Speaker A: you're good and yeah, the moment you put them out in the world and they've never done anything wrong and they think they're top notch and they, they are put up against a bunch of people who are not as good as them in their eyes, who are truly better than them. And the moment you tell them no, laying down, kicking and screaming, whining or crying don't work. Absolutely doesn't work. You just go into the house, you obviously you can't work. [00:16:43] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, no, that's. That's the way it was with us though, too. I mean, I looked at it like, you know, when we were that age, at that age, when we were 16, 17, we were out trying to find work, trying to get a job. [00:16:59] Speaker A: Yeah, we were. I mean, if we wasn't in school, we had to go haul. Hey. Or help. If there was anybody that needed help in the family anywhere, we had to go help them. [00:17:08] Speaker B: And it's just not like that. Moms and dads is just like, if I literally had a. I had a customer come in as a lady and she had. One of her sons was carrying a group 31. Group 31. Her son and she was carrying like a 65. Group 31's a tractor battery. This thing's huge. It's a monster. It probably weighs at least £60. The one boy's carrying it and he, I mean, is absolutely just struggling. I mean, just, you know, acting like it's the heaviest thing ever, which it may have been for him, but I mean, he's probably 17 years old, so. And if, you know, the mom had the 65 and the other boy was probably 12 and he had his iPhone. He had an iPhone and headphones on. Just like he was totally disconnected from the world. [00:17:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:55] Speaker B: And she asked, the mom asked, can I have somebody to carry it out for me? Well, I wasn't up at the front counter, but they come and got me and I carried out a 65 and a 31 for, you know, and I get out there and he opens the trunk, he's like, man, I'm so glad you got those. Those are just. Those are just way too heavy for me. And in my mind I was like, oh yeah. I didn't say nothing. But in my mind I'm like, you're 17 year old. You've got, you know, it's the typical 17 year old. It's got some slides, flip flops on with, with black socks halfway up his leg and gym shorts and looks like he's ready to go play, you know, [00:18:34] Speaker A: he just, you know, I can't keep. I struggle to do what you just said you did. Well, I struggle not to say something [00:18:40] Speaker B: when the mom's standing right there. I can't just dog him. [00:18:43] Speaker A: I don't know. Most of the time I find out the mama's like, tell him, tell him. I've been telling him, you know, that's. That's what I find to be the case. [00:18:51] Speaker B: I just. Sometimes I just let it roll because [00:18:55] Speaker A: you did the right thing. I do the wrong thing. [00:18:58] Speaker B: Well, it's. But I just, you know, in those certain circumstances, I'm like, you are raising a dang weenie. [00:19:06] Speaker A: Yeah, if. [00:19:07] Speaker B: If he can't, if he can't operate any better than that. Both of them. But you know, with, with. [00:19:15] Speaker A: There's two kinds of people. There's a kind that walk in a Home Depot and they see something up on the shelf, they won't. And they either gonna try to get it themselves, come hell or high water. [00:19:25] Speaker B: Yeah. They're gonna tear them. They're gonna tear the shelving down in [00:19:28] Speaker A: the place or they're gonna worry their self sick of actually needing to get somebody to get it. And Then there's other people who just go, I need help. [00:19:35] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. [00:19:36] Speaker A: That's. That's two kind of people there are in this world right there. [00:19:39] Speaker B: Well, it's, I just, you know, even for, and, and going to the, to the extreme, you know, going back to like, you, like, you know, like you were saying, you've said you've got it both, you know, you've got it kind of the opposite way that I've seen it is the grandparents having to pick up the slack for, for the moms and dads that suck. It's pitiful. It's pitiful because they can't. I just, I have a hard time. I, I know. [00:20:07] Speaker A: You know, today is, that is no good. So in the, in the world of, of where you get kids who may get turned into some kind of state custody because the parents just ain't worth a crap or they, you know, pass [00:20:28] Speaker B: away, something happens or something. [00:20:30] Speaker A: For some reason they're in state care, the state wants to find a family member to raise them because they think it's best to be with a family member right now. Don't get me wrong, it's great to be around family. That's great. You need some kind of family. But I'm going to tell you right now, a grandparent is not meant to raise a child. [00:20:51] Speaker B: No, it's. [00:20:51] Speaker A: No, they're meant to be a grandparent. And you are doing that child no favors whatsoever by raising your grandchild. Now, you feel obligated to 100%. I feel like I would feel obligated to make sure because I feel like I could make, I could make sure rather than worrying about some. Whether or not he or she's being taken care of by somebody else. But ultimately, at the end of it, you may end up hurting them more than you're helping them. [00:21:24] Speaker B: Absolutely. [00:21:25] Speaker A: By giving way too. You go to your mama and papa's house, you had way more slack cut on you than you did your mom and dad. [00:21:30] Speaker B: Yes, absolutely. [00:21:31] Speaker A: You know, and it's. [00:21:33] Speaker B: They're made to spoil you and let you do things that you don't do at your mom and dad's house. [00:21:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:41] Speaker B: You know, so when you put that atmosphere on that kid constantly. Yeah. And it's just, it's just all rewarding and all, you know, great and grand and, you know, it's not good. It's not a good. Grandparents don't need to raise kids. [00:21:55] Speaker A: Now, my mom and dad raised my brother's children. My brother was killed in car wrecks. So again, state custody Wanting to find, you know, a parent, which they immediately just went into their care anyway. But, you know, it's. My mom and dad do not do that. They do not give all the time. Give all the time. They do discipline and say no and all these things, but it don't make no difference. It's. It's still a grandparent saying no. You know, it's not the same. I can remember when I was a kid and my papaw, if me and my brother wanted something and my mom and dad wouldn't do it. You go to papaw, we'd call my [00:22:29] Speaker B: papaw, and my papa would say. [00:22:31] Speaker A: He'd say no. He'd say no. And I just sit by the phone and wait because it's fixing to ring again. He's about to say, come on. [00:22:38] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I know. [00:22:40] Speaker A: Because that's how they. That's how they are, you know, so no matter how bad you want to say, you know, I know my mom and dad say no and don't and discipline and all this stuff, but I also know how grandparents are, and I know they're giving in in some sort of way eventually, absolutely, somehow. [00:22:54] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:22:55] Speaker A: I see there's a lady comes into work, and she's got cancer, trying to raise her grandchild, who is a little Helen and getting in trouble and stuff. But, you know, you're going through all this stuff, cancer treatments and chemo and all this and that, you know, and I asked her, how are you doing? You know, after asking how the grandchild said, I'm hanging in there. I'm. You know, and it's like, you know, you oughta. I wish I could talk to the grandchild and be like, you need to help your mama. [00:23:26] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:23:26] Speaker A: You know, and how old is it? I don't know. I don't know. [00:23:30] Speaker B: Okay. [00:23:30] Speaker A: I've only even met her a couple of times, actually. Matter of fact, the first time I met her, I remembered her as soon as I seen her, you know, and I said, how's that grandkid doing? You know, and. And just started asking about her, too. But still, it's. It's. It's. [00:23:46] Speaker B: It's different. [00:23:46] Speaker A: It's good. You want to do good by doing that, but it's. It's just not always a good situation. [00:23:51] Speaker B: No, it's different, too. For. In the child's perspective of us, just my grandparent, I can kind of just do what I want. [00:23:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:00] Speaker B: You know, it's not. It's not the dad that. Okay, if he comes walking down the hall, you know, it's fixing to get real, you know. [00:24:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:07] Speaker B: You don't have that. And moms don't have. I don't know why. Some moms, some moms do. I'm gonna say all moms, but so, I mean, most. Most part, it's dad. It's dad. That. And that's what it's supposed to. Dad is the. He's the dude of the house. He's the leader of the house. [00:24:23] Speaker A: You know, if you're not showing your kids right from wrong and sometime in a harsh way, it's what they have the way they got to be taught. [00:24:31] Speaker B: Absolutely. [00:24:32] Speaker A: You're doing something wrong. Now, granted, with Reese, I didn't have to do a lot of that. He was just an anomaly when it comes to children. He was good. He is way worse today than he [00:24:47] Speaker B: has ever been because he's getting older. [00:24:49] Speaker A: I mean, way worse than he ever was. [00:24:52] Speaker B: Where I have found out where the kids, when they start getting older, they start getting a mouth on them. [00:24:56] Speaker A: Well, they start having their own everything. [00:24:59] Speaker B: But that's good. That's building them up. But you've got a few more years left until you can do this on your own. You know what I mean? But for right now, you've got to do what I'm telling you. But, you know. But now, Ruby, just this week, this week, she's got popped in the mouth twice for back talking. Not missing. I don't miss a beat. I was walking back through the kitchen and her mom said something to her. Wasn't really snap. I mean, it was snappy, but it was like, I'd slap you in the mouth if you said it to me. So I just. I didn't miss. I just walking through holding my plate, walking back pop right in her mouth. Didn't miss a beat. I mean, you should have seen the look in her face. She was just like, of course, you know, she's trying every way in the world trying to be tough and not cry, you know, But I did. I popped her out in the mouth, but I done it twice. And. And I've never. I've. I think I've done a coupe once, but. But anyways, that's the stuff you gotta have. You don't care. Oh, you don't need to do that to him. You don't need to do that to them. Yeah, okay. [00:26:02] Speaker A: I had it done to me, you [00:26:03] Speaker B: know, when I was in. When I was in elementary school and Bill Lee got paddled by Ms. Boone and I seen that woman absolutely beat him for bringing tobacco to school. He Bought like some red man to school or something in a backpack or maybe Copenhagen. I don't know what it was. And she set that boy an example. The principal of our school set that boy as an example. She put him over at desk and, and wore him out. And I thought to the end, I thought, man, I don't ever want to get a whipping. [00:26:39] Speaker A: You didn't get a paddle from Miss Pooh. [00:26:40] Speaker B: I never got a paddling from Miss Pooh. [00:26:42] Speaker A: I never needed no examples. I knew firsthand. [00:26:44] Speaker B: No, you got paddled from her twice [00:26:46] Speaker A: a year, every year. That was the agreement my dad had with her. I'm serious. I got paddled at the beginning of the school year, first day of school. She paddled me for nothing. For nothing at all. [00:26:57] Speaker B: That was getting you lined up. [00:26:59] Speaker A: That was my jump start. They called it my jump start because I hated school. I hated school. I still do. I can't stand school. Megan wants me help reach her school. I'm like important. I just, I can't stand it. But that was my jump start because I didn't want to do my schoolwork or anything. And that was, that was a reminder of what's coming if you don't get it done. And then after Christmas break, same thing. That was my reminder. [00:27:25] Speaker B: I never got one from her. [00:27:27] Speaker A: I did, I never got one from her all the time. [00:27:30] Speaker B: But I do, I do remember, you know, you know, when that happened, when that happened. I do remember. A lot of the kids like you could tell she made, I mean she absolutely set him up there and wore him out. And some of the kids that was just kind of hinging, you know, just ready to get in trouble, you know, they're ready to do something. Man, they were straighten them up. Yeah, uh huh. And I remember, I think it was the same day I remember Bill's dad coming. [00:28:05] Speaker A: He probably did the same thing. [00:28:07] Speaker B: And I believe, I can't remember. I'm pretty sure he about drug him out because he was doing his own thing, excavating back then too, if I'm not mistaken. I remember sitting in the first room right there. And for the front doors were of the school, Bill's dad dragging him out by like his shirt collar. I mean just, I'm like, you know, he's gonna get it when he gets home too. [00:28:30] Speaker A: Oh yeah, yeah, for sure. And wouldn't you much rather. Wouldn't you much rather pop a kid in the mouth like that or bust her hind end or something and hollering at him and I mean, wouldn't you much rather do that. Than to not do that their entire lives and then let them get beat within an inch of their lives by a full grown man when they grow up. [00:28:53] Speaker B: Absolutely. Yeah. [00:28:55] Speaker A: There you go. [00:28:55] Speaker B: Absolutely. Why wouldn't you? [00:28:57] Speaker A: There you go. [00:28:58] Speaker B: I don't bat an eye when I hear something that's out of line. I mean, I just handle it right then. That's just the way to do it. But it's a whole lot better than screaming and yelling and hollering at your kids all the time. You start slapping them upside the head and they start paying attention and you slack off. [00:29:17] Speaker A: As they get older, you don't need as much discipline. You don't have to be as physical with spankings or whatever. And you can. You can eventually get to the point to where you can take stuff away from them. And it means a lot more than getting your hind end. [00:29:30] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. They would rather get their hind ends whooped as. As watching an episode of something on, you know, or they're. Or they're playing. Playing the switch or something, you know. [00:29:41] Speaker A: Avery would too. Yeah, he don't care. He's tough as nails. Yeah, he don't care a bit. [00:29:45] Speaker B: I remember Brian Curtis. You remember Brian Curtis. Do you remember? He used to. Brian Kerr's big old guy. He used to be big. He ain't no more, but he used to be a big old guy. And he used to play Santa down in Loudoun. And we went to church at Mountain Zion. And I remember where he goes to church. I don't know if he still goes there, but he does. [00:30:07] Speaker A: Pretty sure. [00:30:08] Speaker B: So I remember him taking me. It was me and Ben and a few of us. He took all of us outside. And I wish that parents would let this happen today, you know what I mean? He took all of us outside and he beat the fire out of Ben. And I'm pretty sure it was Daniel, too. Probably Daniel and Ben both. I don't think it was Gabe. Gabe was probably a little older, but anyways, he beat the fire out of them boys. And it was like me and Jesse Booth and somebody else. I can't remember. There's a few of us. And I was like, oh, my. I mean, he was wearing them out. And I thought I was next, you know, because we were all acting out in church. [00:30:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:48] Speaker B: And I mean, he beat the crap out of him. And he said, who's next? Anybody else want to act out? And it took one time of me seeing Ben get beat, and I didn't want no more part of it. I was straight. I mean, I Was just. I was like, yes. The whole time in church. Look, straightforward. [00:31:05] Speaker A: Don't. Don't. [00:31:08] Speaker B: He did, and he yanked me. I remember when he yanked me up, like, he. I mean, he just grabbed me, right one arm, right up out of the bench, out of the pew. I went poof. Right up. Drug me and Ben and Jesse pulled all of us out of there. And he didn't whip us, you know, but he. I guarantee you he would have. If my mom said whip him, you know, it would have been. He would have whipped me. But I seen him beat Ben, and I was like, I don't want no part of that. I don't want anything to do with that. [00:31:34] Speaker A: I got paddled in eighth grade. [00:31:36] Speaker B: Eighth grade? [00:31:37] Speaker A: Eighth grade. Where at Delphi. From who? Mr. Gentry. [00:31:42] Speaker B: Wow. Ah, shoot. [00:31:44] Speaker A: Sure did. [00:31:45] Speaker B: That was all over with in fifth grade for me. I mean, they wouldn't allow to do it anymore. [00:31:49] Speaker A: Oh, shoot. I got my whole life. [00:31:52] Speaker B: Maybe. Maybe I would. Maybe not. [00:31:54] Speaker A: The reason I'm worth the crap. [00:31:55] Speaker B: Yeah, well, I ain't, so. But. But, you know, Man, and letting these kids do whatever they want in school now and not being able to say, I have two customers that are teachers at Sequoia, and they said, the problem. He said, we can't. Like, we want to be a teacher, and we want to do these things for the kids and all this, but you can't tell them no. You can't discipline them. You can't. There's nothing you can do to them except try to teach them. And if they don't listen, I was like, well, what if they don't listen and they don't pass? They don't do. They don't have. It's like, you know, she said, unfortunately, she said, some students, they get a green card. It's a green card. Just a green light. [00:32:44] Speaker A: Just to get them out of that grave. [00:32:45] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, to get them out. [00:32:47] Speaker A: That's what my dad told my brother. I remember one time, he said something about, you know, you don't even have a high school diploma to him. And he did. Derek said, I do, too. I graduated. He said, I got a diploma. He said, you ain't got no diploma. He said, they got you out of school because they didn't want to deal with you no more. That's called a gift. You earn a diploma. [00:33:13] Speaker B: That's probably true. [00:33:15] Speaker A: I guarantee you that's true. [00:33:17] Speaker B: That's true. [00:33:17] Speaker A: They didn't want to see him. [00:33:19] Speaker B: There's a bunch of. I'm sure, sure, you know, don't get [00:33:23] Speaker A: me started on Schools. I'm not part of that. I'm not part of schools with my kids because it's like that recliner going down. If I'm going down there. [00:33:32] Speaker B: Yeah, it's crap. [00:33:34] Speaker A: There's nothing good gonna come of this. Nothing. Because I'll tell you something right now. I think that. Don't get me wrong, I've had a lot of good teachers, a lot of good teachers who taught me right from wrong and showed me right from wrong and who taught me lessons and I learned and, you know, it made me as smart as I am today, whatever that is for. And. But I'm going to tell you right now, some of these teachers today that I hear about this is not firsthand. It might be firsthand with my kids, but not. Not to me, with me. Because I'm not dealing with it. I can't deal with it. We'll be homeschooling in no time. In no time. Because Reese, like last year, year before sometime anyway, one of his teachers one time had sent home a note that said that Reese was talking in class and we needed to talk to him. [00:34:43] Speaker B: Okay. [00:34:43] Speaker A: And I thought, what in the world are you there for? Don't tell me that my child is talking in your classroom when I'm at work trying to work or my wife's at work trying to work and you're there that's supposed to be teaching these kids. [00:35:01] Speaker B: Yeah, right. [00:35:03] Speaker A: Talk to him about it. Tell him something about it. It's like they're lazy as can be, but it might be that there's their hands are so tied by the school systems. [00:35:12] Speaker B: I think it's both. I think it's both. I honestly do. I do think it's both. [00:35:16] Speaker A: It's ridiculous. [00:35:17] Speaker B: Yeah, it's ridiculous. She. [00:35:19] Speaker A: And they're lazy, man. They're lazy. [00:35:23] Speaker B: Unfortunately. I think some of them, some part of public school needs to have a place that these kids that, you know, not like. Not just like talking out in class, but I'm talking about when they are a very troubled child. Like they, you know, they just don't have any discipline they need to have. [00:35:40] Speaker A: That was called in school suspension or juvenile citation when I was a kid. [00:35:45] Speaker B: Yeah, but. Yes, yes. But I mean, I went to. In school. I mean, it wasn't anything harsh, but I mean, it's like teachers in there that are like making you understand that we're not going to do this again. I mean, somebody hardcore like the. Who was the dude that used to. That was at the high school for top in J. Yes, yes. Like him that he just. I mean, that would absolutely. If you stepped out of line, it looks like he's gonna kill you. [00:36:14] Speaker A: A drill sergeant. [00:36:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Drill sergeant. [00:36:15] Speaker A: He was a drill sergeant. [00:36:16] Speaker B: Yeah. That's the kind of people that you would need almost like going to military. In military. You know, I asked. I asked that teacher the other day. I was like, can you, like, make them right? You know, like, we used to like, I will not talk in class. I will not talk in class. I'm talking class. She's like, no, you can't do that stuff no more. That's what. That's what she told me now. What? She told me. [00:36:36] Speaker A: Yeah, you can't write in school. [00:36:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:38] Speaker A: What does that mean? [00:36:39] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. She told me that. You can't make them do that. [00:36:41] Speaker A: This is the. What do you mean? I know. What do you mean? [00:36:46] Speaker B: We just send them. We just send them to the principal. I was like, well, the principal can't. What's the principal going to do? Just call the mom and dad? [00:36:54] Speaker A: Exactly. That's. That's the problem. That's the problem. [00:36:57] Speaker B: Yeah. I couldn't believe that. I was like, oh, my gosh. I used to have to do that crap all the time. Or I will not say this or I will, you know, I will not do that or whatever. Yeah. [00:37:09] Speaker A: I don't. I don't know, man. It's just. It kills me. And I'm sure it's got to do with this freaking stupid United States government and restrictions on states putting so much tying teachers hands to where they can't do some. I'm sure it has something to do with that. [00:37:24] Speaker B: And another thing. [00:37:25] Speaker A: But I believe you get by a little bit. [00:37:27] Speaker B: If I took my kid to school and this was in a high school, this is in high school, and this is happening in our area. If I went to that high school and my kids going to that high school and I have a boy that is dressed in a dress, multiple boys dressed in a dress. I would have to figure out if it was my school. If it was my school and I was in charge of that school, I would have to figure out we're going to have to have a dress code. You know what I mean? I just. I cannot get behind. I'm going to take my kids and drop them off and they're going to see these boys walking around in dresses. I said, well, what do they do when they go to the bathroom? He said, well, as far as of right now, it's still separated. And then if you have a problem going in, they have a bathroom. Just for those. [00:38:23] Speaker A: The problems. [00:38:24] Speaker B: Yeah, the problem. [00:38:25] Speaker A: The problem. Bathroom. [00:38:26] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. You have. If you've got a. Yeah. And. And the whole. The whole. Which we've said. We talked about this. The litter pan thing, that just blows my mind. And there's nothing you can do about it. [00:38:38] Speaker A: I'm going to. [00:38:39] Speaker B: A kid. A kid. You using the litter box because he thinks he's a cat. [00:38:44] Speaker A: I'm gonna go ahead and take that. [00:38:45] Speaker B: Blows my mind. Are you serious? [00:38:47] Speaker A: There was a problem at our school one time over these furries. These people who think they're a cat or whatever. Stupid. Whatever. That wasn't a problem to be like that. But they had something to say about. I'm not gonna say names. Somebody's kid who had a Jesus shirt on. [00:39:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Wasn't that something? [00:39:06] Speaker A: Dad's a preacher. There's a big problem. Oh, yeah. Big problem. And I'm gonna tell you right now, I'm gonna tell Reese this. Reese says, dad, these people are in school doing this or doing whatever, I'm gonna say, ignore them, son. Ignore them. But if they say something to you or they come up to you wanting to start something, just knock a hell out of them. [00:39:24] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. [00:39:25] Speaker A: Just put them on their backs and the rest of them will leave you alone. And I don't care if you get kicked out of school. It don't make no difference to me. I don't need the school system. Oh, yeah, and you don't either. [00:39:33] Speaker B: Yeah. It's 100. [00:39:34] Speaker A: We will homeschool you till it's the last penny. I've got till the last breath. I have to keep you away from idiots. [00:39:43] Speaker B: I could not believe that when he told me that they had. I said. I said, so you're telling me that there's litter boxes? There is a grown man that has to come behind. I said, there's no job in this world that I'm going to go clean up human feces because somebody thinks that they're a cat. And he said he didn't have an answer to how it gets cleaned. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In our high school. In our. In our. [00:40:08] Speaker A: It ain't my high school. [00:40:09] Speaker B: No, I know. I know. [00:40:10] Speaker A: It ain't the high school we went to now. Maybe ours is, but that's. It would have never lasted. [00:40:16] Speaker B: I just can't see that. [00:40:17] Speaker A: Wouldn't have made it until 3:15 when we went to high school. No, I'm gonna tell you right now, [00:40:23] Speaker B: we'd have had that. We'd have had that litter pan. [00:40:25] Speaker A: Every one of them had been in the Bathroom with litter everywhere. Yeah, it'd been a. [00:40:30] Speaker B: But see, I even look at our teachers we had. And I know our teachers are not the same teachers that are there now. [00:40:35] Speaker A: No, we had old ladies that would smack a taste out of your mouth. [00:40:39] Speaker B: Yeah, I know, I know, I know. I actually seen two of our teachers last Sunday. Sons of smoke, I seen them. Two of our teachers. Ms. Broncos. [00:40:52] Speaker A: Probably Ms. Castile and. [00:40:55] Speaker B: No. Oh, what was the other one's name? And what? Ms. Castell. I see her all the time. [00:41:03] Speaker A: Yeah, I do, too. That's why I said that. [00:41:04] Speaker B: No, it was missed. No, I can't remember the other ones. [00:41:07] Speaker A: Probably. It wasn't even teachers that I had. It might have been when you went to. [00:41:09] Speaker B: No, it was elementary. [00:41:11] Speaker A: I wasn't. My teachers. [00:41:12] Speaker B: You went to. You didn't go to Loud Sticky or sticky. I went sticky. [00:41:16] Speaker A: So it was after fifth grade or before fifth grade? Yeah, actually, I was. [00:41:22] Speaker B: Before it was. No, it was our. It was our. It was pretty. It was our. [00:41:26] Speaker A: I don't remember no Broncos except the one I drove out of high school. [00:41:30] Speaker B: No, no, no. She was second grade teacher, Ms. Ramsey. I didn't have a second grade teacher. [00:41:38] Speaker A: Ms. Ramsey was. [00:41:39] Speaker B: I didn't have her for my second grade teacher. I had Ms. Ramsey. [00:41:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:41:43] Speaker B: Yeah, but it was the other. It was the other one. Ms. Broncos is the one down there. [00:41:48] Speaker A: I didn't think there was her last name, but I didn't need to know it. [00:41:54] Speaker B: It's Edwards, third grade. Yeah, Edwards. Yeah. [00:41:59] Speaker A: But anyway, I seen her, too. I seen her, too. We were going to mow her yard one time. Me and Brody were mowing. [00:42:04] Speaker B: Really? Yeah, we didn't. I just can't. I just can't. I just. I just. I don't know, man. It's. It's sad. It's sad times. I'll be honest. [00:42:12] Speaker A: It's terrible. [00:42:15] Speaker B: I just can't believe that. Teachers can. If I was a teacher, I don't even know how I would respond to that. [00:42:25] Speaker A: How can you not make kids write? [00:42:27] Speaker B: Yeah, I know, I know. [00:42:28] Speaker A: Like, look, here you go. We got. [00:42:30] Speaker B: I'm talking even. Not even that. I'm talking about when someone. A boy walks in your classroom and he's got a. He's got scruff on his face and he's wearing a pink dress. What are you gonna say? [00:42:44] Speaker A: I'd probably laugh at him, just to be honest with you. [00:42:47] Speaker B: What are you going to say? I mean, honestly, what. I mean, as long as. I cannot imagine. [00:42:52] Speaker A: As long as you don't have too much skin showing it's okay. [00:42:55] Speaker B: Yeah. If his, if his fingertips. Yeah, yeah. Dresses past his fingertips. [00:43:00] Speaker A: No belly. [00:43:02] Speaker B: I just didn't. I just didn't know that we have in our school system that, that, that, that, that we have teachers there that are just okay with it. I know I could. I know what people are going to say is like, well, you ain't nothing. You ain't nothing you can do about it. You can quit or you can find something else to do or something. Because if I had to deal with that all the time, there is no way I could not. I don't know if I could live with myself. Yeah. [00:43:25] Speaker A: But maybe, maybe the reward of teaching the children that do want to learn and who are good kids or overweight. [00:43:32] Speaker B: I know, I know. But still, golly, it would just take. I just don't have patience for stuff like that. I don't. For dumb stuff like that. I don't have patience. [00:43:40] Speaker A: I could not be a high school teacher. [00:43:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:43:42] Speaker A: I'll tell you that, that crap going on in high school. [00:43:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:43:45] Speaker A: You're too close to a grown man. [00:43:47] Speaker B: Grown. Problem is I couldn't be a teacher too because I, I've got a. I'm going to. Unfortunately, I have a hard time with kids, even kids in my family that when they start smart off to their moms or their dads, that I don't get that close to getting up and just wearing their. [00:44:04] Speaker A: Doing something yourself. [00:44:05] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. So I'd do the same thing. If I was teaching them in high school. [00:44:09] Speaker A: Every kid in my class would be in the office. [00:44:11] Speaker B: Then I guess just go, Just go to the principal's office. I don't even know what to do with it. I want to kill you right now. [00:44:17] Speaker A: Well, yeah. You're not teaching him. You're saying that. You're not teaching him saying that. I got juvenile citation one time for saying that. And like a joking manner. [00:44:27] Speaker B: I just. I don't know, man. Wild times. It is wild times. [00:44:34] Speaker A: Well, there's no answer to the. Well, there's no real answer of what's going to happen to fix it. But the answer's cut the crap. And yeah, stupid. [00:44:46] Speaker B: We've got go to work. Yeah, absolutely. And if you've got a kid, raise your own kid. Don't let your mom, don't let your dad, don't let you and your significant other at that time that made that kid raise it. That's all. That's all I'm asking. Try to be better. I mean, honestly, discipline would help. Yep. Discipline that kid. [00:45:12] Speaker A: Be harsh. Be harsh with it. [00:45:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:16] Speaker A: They'll love you no matter what. [00:45:17] Speaker B: They will. Absolutely. [00:45:19] Speaker A: Mom and dad. My mom and dad could beat me senseless. And it don't change the way I feel for them. [00:45:24] Speaker B: No, absolutely. [00:45:25] Speaker A: It made me not do it again. [00:45:26] Speaker B: Yeah, right. [00:45:27] Speaker A: You know, that's what. [00:45:28] Speaker B: That's what we're. That's what. All we're talking about is the discipline and not repeat. You know, it just. I don't know, it's. It's sad to see it, but it happens. [00:45:41] Speaker A: It does. I see it every day at work with people coming in or whatever, and maybe I don't. And I'm not assuming anything. When I see a grandparent with a child, you know, they'll tell me it's my grandkid, I'm watching him or something, you know. But when they tell me the story, you know, dad's on drugs or whatever else, you know, is going on there, or didn't make wise decisions or whatever, it's. It's truly, truly sad. And I don't think it's fair for either party, the grandparent or the child. And truthfully, it's. It's not fair to you if you're the parent, if you're not raising them the right way, because you're going to end up dealing with that one day, whether it's just verbally. People are talking about your child. You're reading about him in the dang newspaper. [00:46:30] Speaker B: You're literally. That's what's. That's what. That's the whole thing of it. I mean, he. The kid is going to grow up and be a problem. It's going to be those kids, and [00:46:39] Speaker A: you can raise them right. And they might be, too. [00:46:41] Speaker B: Absolutely. [00:46:42] Speaker A: But they got a much better chance of turning out the way they need to be able to function in society. [00:46:46] Speaker B: At least you didn't fail. At least you didn't fail. I gave it all I could give. [00:46:51] Speaker A: There you go. [00:46:51] Speaker B: And then. And then that's just after that. But now if you, you know, if, you know, if you let that kid do, you know, let that kid run over you, and it's just. It's, you know, it ain't good. [00:47:03] Speaker A: But then again, you do have families where you have two kids and one. One comes up just right and the other one's not, you know, what do you. What do you do in that case? [00:47:10] Speaker B: I know. [00:47:11] Speaker A: Yeah. So. [00:47:12] Speaker B: Yeah, well. And, you know, ain't nothing. The problem is with the grandparents. I could not imagine my mom and dad trying to raise my. My kids, because when my kids go to My grandparents or their grandparents, my mom and dad's house or, or Alex's, [00:47:29] Speaker A: you know, they come back terrible, don't they, for like a day. [00:47:32] Speaker B: Yeah, you have to absolutely about beat them to death and ready to just strangle them. You ain't going back. Yeah, you are not going back to your house. You're not going back to your grandparents house because they get, they get all the. They get to eat whatever they want. They get all the sweets, they want all the. And that's what our grandparents supposed to do. That's fine, you know, that's, that's, you know, but. And get all the. If they want to watch TV or [00:47:58] Speaker A: if we want to stay up late, [00:47:59] Speaker B: they want to stay up late, pass their bedtime. And if they want to play video games, they can do it all at grandparents house for two nights. And then they come back and you're a bunch of little aliens and you can't do nothing with them. You want to kill them and make them sleep outside. You know, I mean, it's like being [00:48:15] Speaker A: on leave from the military. But then you got to get back in line when you come. [00:48:18] Speaker B: Yeah, that's it. So grandparents, parenting young kids just don't. It don't work. It just don't. Unless. And you know, I mean, it's just. There's not a good place for it. And you know, because grandparents. And then they have, you know, some grandparents, even me, I even look at it myself. I get a little bit more. When you get older, you have a little bit less resistance for things, you know. [00:48:45] Speaker A: Yeah. You're. What you'll. What? You'll. [00:48:46] Speaker B: What you'll allow. [00:48:47] Speaker A: Yeah. And what you'll allow keeps going down. [00:48:49] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Where you used to like mom and dad. If I did that. Oh. If I colored on a wall at my mom and dad's house, I'd be beat. I mean, dad would absolutely go out there and get a hickory and absolutely wear me out. [00:49:08] Speaker A: It's all right, I'll wipe that off there. [00:49:10] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now kids go down, I mean, and they just spent. They had a $40,000 renovation in their house. [00:49:17] Speaker A: Oh, they better not be writing on no wall. My kids better not be. [00:49:21] Speaker B: No, I'm just saying. I'm just saying, like this has not happened, but I know if it did happen. Oh, it's fine. We'll go, we'll get. We'll get one of them magic erasers and it will. I will take it off later. Don't worry about it. If I'd have done that. [00:49:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:49:34] Speaker B: Golly bum. [00:49:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [00:49:36] Speaker B: That's what I mean. My kids ain't done it, but I just know, like, when my get. When I go there, I mean, it's. [00:49:42] Speaker A: You know, by the time you're that old, you're tired. [00:49:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:47] Speaker A: You don't want to be the hard person you once was. You don't want to do it. And that's why they shouldn't be. Right. Grandparents raising grandkids. I commend you. You're trying. You're trying to give the child the best thing. You're trying to honor your child by making sure their kids are good. I get it. [00:50:06] Speaker B: Be tough on them if you do. [00:50:07] Speaker A: If you are, try your best. Yeah. [00:50:09] Speaker B: Be tough on them. [00:50:09] Speaker A: And parents who do a good job. [00:50:12] Speaker B: That's good. Absolutely. [00:50:13] Speaker A: They're right. Good job. [00:50:16] Speaker B: I'm talking about the ones who don't. The ones that just dump your kids off on your mom and dad and let them have them. Or if they're living with them, living with their mom and dad. That's another topic. But we won't go down that road. [00:50:32] Speaker A: But anyway, well, that's all I got. [00:50:35] Speaker B: All right, guys, that's it. [00:50:38] Speaker A: Thanks for listening. Tune in Mondays, second floor. [00:50:41] Speaker B: Yes. Y' all have a good one. See you next time.