Quit making excuses! Go get a job

[00:00:03] Speaker A: Where are they? [00:00:04] Speaker B: They're probably upstairs. They never answer the door. Oh, wait, it's Monday night. They're on the second floor. Hey, guys. Welcome back again to second floor session. And we're coming back to you with a couple different topics. Today we got our Max fixed. Bo messed it all up. I'm gonna blame it on him. It was my mic that was bad. [00:00:36] Speaker A: What? [00:00:37] Speaker B: Yeah, it's all Bo's fault. He didn't. Look at this. He didn't. He didn't tell me mine wasn't on. I'm blaming him. [00:00:43] Speaker A: I got a text at 10:30 at night. When he got back, listening to it, he's like, my mic was all. I said, shut up. [00:00:51] Speaker B: He said, that's exactly what he said. [00:00:53] Speaker A: I said, I'm dead serious. I'm serious. [00:00:55] Speaker B: Sorry about the last goof up. [00:00:57] Speaker A: Yeah, we know it sounds like crap on the podcasting and it's. Yeah, it's me. [00:01:01] Speaker B: It works. [00:01:02] Speaker A: YouTube. [00:01:02] Speaker B: It worked, but it's fixed. We're, we're. We're pushing forward here. Yep, yep. Bunch of rookies. But. So today I had. I had a guy that. That was. He was in his 20. He was probably 21, 22. I don't think he, he, he. He liked to work that well, but he couldn't. Said he couldn't find a job. So I don't know if he really couldn't find a job or whatever. But our first. I think the first topic here is going to be like, people need to think outside the box of how they can make money. A few that I have seen that. Absolutely. My wife was like. She's like, you should do this one. So the first job, if I was to. If I didn't have this business, I would. I. This is going to sound crazy, but it, It's a thing from the area that I'm in, there's a lot of industrial parks and different stuff. They are a guy that comes around and will fuel your vehicle up for you. It's a fuel. He's like. He's a container that has a truck with. I think it's just. I think it's one like a 89, maybe 89 octane. And he will fill your truck up like it. You're at your work, your home, anywhere. If you call him now, it's a. It's a premium price. It's like an extra dollar per gallon or something like that. And there's a guy, there's a company, [00:02:35] Speaker A: he says, have you talked to this guy? [00:02:37] Speaker B: No, no, no, no, no. [00:02:38] Speaker A: Okay. [00:02:38] Speaker B: This is Actually what Alex was telling me about it and, and he actually like jobs. I mean, I'm sorry, the boat docks. Yeah, he'll do it off boat docks. He'll do it in. He says industrial parks is where he has a lot of his. I don't know why you can't go by the gas station when you get off. But an extra 20 or 30 bucks, like every fill up he can make. Like his average was like $20 a fill up. [00:03:07] Speaker A: Oh yeah. [00:03:08] Speaker B: $20 a fill up is what he make. He's making on fuel. Well, if you do that at least, if you just do that five to ten times a day, you can make some serious money. I mean, just five or six, 10 times a day. 100 bucks. You could do 100 bucks and just pump five of them. [00:03:25] Speaker A: So is he filing taxes on this? [00:03:27] Speaker B: Well, of course, I'm sure he is. [00:03:28] Speaker A: What's double taxation, Isn't it? [00:03:30] Speaker B: Well, you can get a resale. I'm sure you get a resale cert. [00:03:34] Speaker A: Okay, well, you're the businessman. I don't know about that. [00:03:37] Speaker B: Well, you got a resale starter. But regardless, I told that guy. [00:03:43] Speaker A: What's he doing this out of? [00:03:45] Speaker B: It's just, he's got like a tanker. It's not a big. It's not like what we would think a tanker truck is, but it's just like a. It's just a big truck with a drum. Like a drum with like a drum in it? No, it's more like a. It's like a. Like a Kenworth 7 hunt or 7,000 somewhere in there. But it's not, it doesn't. It's not a huge tanker truck. It's not like a big, you know, semi truck. But it's just, it's just a. Almost put you in the mind of the tool trucks. What it would remind you of about that size, but with a pretty good sized tank on it. And he goes around filling people's stuff up. Well. And it got me interested in looking to like different jobs people do. Like, which we all know. Like, you know, if you know anything about cars, like you can do the mobile. The mobile stuff as far as doing oil changes, like in, in these. Yeah, these. In factories and all that stuff are going to someone's home and doing it. [00:04:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:04:40] Speaker B: So that's another option. But I was telling the guy, I was like, what do you like to do? He's like, oh, you know, he's like. He's like. I tried my hand at a couple different, you know, thrift. He. He was Like a thrifter. I hadn't met many guys as a thrifter, but he's a thrifter. Going to thrift stores and stuff and trying to resell stuff on ebay. [00:05:02] Speaker A: So. [00:05:03] Speaker B: But listen, listen to this, though. He told me it was. He told me it was. It was too. It was. Well, I'm assuming it would be. He said it was too sporadic. Everything was too sporadic. Well, when you go buy a 1998 Chicago Bulls jacket and try to sell it online, you get it for $5 and you try to sell it online for 1075. No, I mean, he does his, like, he does his work. But he told me, I said, well, I said, he, like. But I got into it like two or three years ago. It was pretty, you know, pretty profitable, pretty strong, you know, And. And I was like, well, what did you. What did you make that dude told me, he said that some months he put down like 3,500 to $4,000. I said, how do you get time to. If you're getting that much stuff, how do you get time to go thrift shopping? You know? But he'll go like on weekends and stuff and he'll just. And everything. It's just like your cell phone, you barcode. Everything's got a barcode. Everything's got a barcode. [00:06:05] Speaker A: Everybody. [00:06:06] Speaker B: Everything's got a part number or whatever. [00:06:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:08] Speaker B: And he's just looking at what stuff's going for online. Yeah. And all he's doing is flipping it and reselling it. Well, so I thought about doing that [00:06:16] Speaker A: with trailers at one point. It was a side gig. [00:06:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:20] Speaker A: Problem is, worn out, busted up trailer cost a fortune. [00:06:24] Speaker B: Yeah. But I guess another thing is you got titles and all that crap most of the time you got to deal with. But anyways, the one that really stuck out to me was I had a customer come in and he said, he pumps septic. [00:06:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:47] Speaker B: And he said, It's $500 a pump. He said, now if I have to dig anything, that's just to pull my lid up and pump my crap out, it's $500. And I asked him, what was your cost to get started? He said, well, like business license and everything. He said, he said that. He told me, he said, well, with the truck and you know, he said, everything I've done to it, we're looking at. He said, I was looking at about 20,000. $20,000. And you start pumping tanks, that is a lot of money. $500 a pop. [00:07:27] Speaker A: I know they charge a lot more if you have to uncover Them most septic tanks ain't that deep, but some of them can get deep. [00:07:32] Speaker B: And I was extremely floored. He said, he's like. He's like. I was like, well, that's really good money. And he's like, yeah. He said, but you know what's better money, he said, is doing Porta Pot. Porta Potties? I was like, really? He's like, yeah, Porta potties. He said, they're cheap, they're plastic, they're, you know. [00:07:52] Speaker A: Oh, you mean do it like you're providing the porta Potty. [00:07:56] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:07:56] Speaker A: He said, okay. I thought you meant like a hundred. I thought you meant sucking the Porta Potty. [00:08:00] Speaker B: I think a hundred dollar bill for those things a month. [00:08:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:05] Speaker B: And my. I don't know how we're Ken, but we're ken to the McMahan somehow. And my cousin runs. He's got one of the largest ones. Like he. I don't know if. If he did. If he ever bought. He was actually going to buy. Faye. [00:08:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:22] Speaker B: You know. You know, Faye. You know, around here. That. That's huge. Yeah. And. And I could be off when I say this, but he's got somewhere in the neighborhood between 40 to. I mean, sorry, four to 5,000 porta potties that he's in cycle with. [00:08:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:39] Speaker B: And they're constantly going, you know, taking them places and BlackBerry up here, the farm, he set like a hundred up there, almost 100 porta potties up there. At a hundred dollars a pop. Yeah. And was like for three. For three nights. It was like $13,000. [00:09:00] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:09:01] Speaker B: He said it's nasty. He said it's nasty. [00:09:04] Speaker A: Yeah, it's nasty. [00:09:05] Speaker B: But he said it. He said. And he just. He's our age. He's literally like 34 years old. And he's probably no joke. He's probably. Other than him buying that he bought a huge company out. He's bought like two or three porta potty companies out. And other than that, he's probably an easy millionaire. An easy millionaire from. From doing Porta Potties? Yeah. [00:09:31] Speaker A: Yeah. You don't think about that very often. [00:09:33] Speaker B: No, no. But those two. I was like, dude, that's just. You don't have to talk to nobody. You ain't gotta. You ain't got customers to worry about. You just go suck the junk out. [00:09:44] Speaker A: What are they gonna do, complain about it being dirty? Every Porta Potty I ever been in, it's disgusting. The nastiest thing. I'd rather crap in the woods. I really would. [00:09:52] Speaker B: Well, but I was talking to that guy and I was like, dude, you can do anything as far as you want. You know, you said if you got, you know, mowing yards, well, you got [00:10:02] Speaker A: money to start some stuff. [00:10:03] Speaker B: Well, yeah, but. But still, I mean, literally down, like down in the village, you can start with a push mower down there. You can start with a push mower in a village. $300 push mower and a business license. And you need insurance, of course, but most of them don't. Your big lawn cares do. But, but, but like that. And of course, I mentioned a lot. He's like, yeah, I've tried that before, man. It gets June or, you know, July and August. You know, that's way too hard. [00:10:33] Speaker A: If buying thrift crap is too hard. [00:10:35] Speaker B: Well, but anyways. Yeah, I know, I know, but. So I. But there's so much you can do as far as making money. Yeah. [00:10:44] Speaker A: I mean, you can make more excuses than you can money. [00:10:48] Speaker B: Absolutely you can. I like that. I like that. [00:10:50] Speaker A: Yeah, [00:10:53] Speaker B: for sure. [00:10:53] Speaker A: He's just making excuses. I. [00:10:56] Speaker B: You know, the going back to, you know, since I started my business last year and I was just doing it as a. My second business. Second one I got. I was just doing it as a. Yeah. It's not that. [00:11:12] Speaker A: It's not that two business. [00:11:14] Speaker B: It's not, you know, one ain't enough. Yeah. [00:11:17] Speaker A: So. [00:11:18] Speaker B: But on the side of my main business, but doing mobile repair and tires and, you know, all the stuff that I do, I wasn't even looking to do, you know, a ton of work. I just wanted to be able to. The little work that I do. Sure. [00:11:41] Speaker A: Your mic's on there. [00:11:43] Speaker B: Is it still on? Okay. The little work that I do, I want to be able to bring it home to my family. So that. So I just went out and got a business license. Didn't think that much about it because I wanted to be, as, you know, I wanted to be legal. I didn't want to just keep doing cash or this or that, you know, and then the, you know, doing work for the town on police cruisers and their trucks and all kinds of stuff. Well, I have to have. I have to have, you know, a business license. I have to have all this stuff because they're not just going to pull money out of the drawer down there at the town hall and pay Matt. It ain't gonna happen. [00:12:23] Speaker A: Right. [00:12:23] Speaker B: So I had to do that. But you can do anything. Anything, though. I mean, there's. There's all kinds of opportunity out there. I don't know why people have such a Hard time, you know, to find something that you like. There's so much out there. [00:12:42] Speaker A: Liking and working is two different things. [00:12:44] Speaker B: I get that. But there's not a job that you're going to do that you just. I don't know of one. That you're just going to wake up every morning and be like, oh, this is it. I can't wait to get there and just bust the walls down every day for 20 years. It's just. It's not. It's not there. But I don't think a job is meant to be fun. But. But as far as liking something and you can't sit here and tell me you can't do. You can't find work or you can't. You know, that's a bunch of crap. [00:13:16] Speaker A: You can't find work is a bunch of crap. [00:13:18] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. That's what I'm saying. [00:13:20] Speaker A: You may not settle for a job you like, though. [00:13:22] Speaker B: Yeah, well, that's. I just have a hard time with that stuff. I don't get it. [00:13:27] Speaker A: Well, you just don't have room for excuses. I mean, not finding a job is not an excuse. Like, you can find a job. [00:13:34] Speaker B: You may not want to go down here. You may not want to go down here and work at the Hardee's or the Dollar General or the whatever, but I can guarantee you, if Matt went to the Dollar General and work or ran the Dollar General, I could about bet you that'd be the nicest Dollar General. [00:13:53] Speaker A: You wouldn't have to do much. You wouldn't have to do a lot for it to be the nicest Dollar General I've ever been in. I'll tell you that right now. [00:14:01] Speaker B: Have you ever been in one that didn't have crap in the aisle? [00:14:05] Speaker A: No. [00:14:06] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't ever remember going to a Dollar General. [00:14:09] Speaker A: I don't go to the one in the Village. You ever been in that one? It's. [00:14:11] Speaker B: I assume it might be the one at the Bay. They said it's really nice. I don't know. I'm sure that has to be the Bay in the Village. Yeah, the Bay and the Village, they say they're the, like, two of the nicest, but I just. I have a hard time when I go into a place like that. Owning your own business and they've got totes in the floor. They've got. What are you doing? You know what I mean? What do you do? [00:14:34] Speaker A: I don't. I don't know. [00:14:36] Speaker B: But going back, I mean, you may be something you don't want to do, but, I mean, I just want. [00:14:42] Speaker A: I didn't think I wanted to do Porta Potties a few minutes ago. [00:14:45] Speaker B: Oh, well. [00:14:45] Speaker A: And now I'm kind of thinking I do. [00:14:48] Speaker B: My cousin makes an absolute. I. He makes an absolute killing. [00:14:52] Speaker A: Yeah, well, you got to have the business, and you got to get big to be able to do it. [00:14:56] Speaker B: He grew fast. He grew fast. [00:14:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:14:58] Speaker B: But I hear stories like, it gets so. With those Porta Potties, it gets so just normal, you know? Like, he talks. He talked about, like, just rolling up, you know, just rocking in there barefoot, you know, getting his shoes and his boots. He said he just. Anymore, he just. He just don't care. It's just one of those things. It's just. He said once you do it so much, it's just like, you know, because if I would. If anything got out on me in that Porta Potty, I gotta go take a shower. [00:15:29] Speaker A: Yeah. I'd be disgusting. [00:15:30] Speaker B: But he said once you do it so much. He said. He said it's just. [00:15:34] Speaker A: Yeah. Once you're covered in crap a few times, I guess it's all right. [00:15:37] Speaker B: Yeah. But. [00:15:39] Speaker A: Shoe dang. [00:15:40] Speaker B: Yeah, but he. He's. He's. He's done really well with it. I just. [00:15:48] Speaker A: Well, I've seen. I tell you, I think I've seen some kind of video or something of somebody getting those Porta Potties. I mean, I think when they pull up in those trucks to get them, I mean, they've got, like, hoses and stuff. They roll out and they wash everything. [00:16:00] Speaker B: They wash it and suck it out. Yeah. [00:16:02] Speaker A: I mean, so it's probably. [00:16:03] Speaker B: It's basically a. It's basically a septic truck, more or less. It's basically a septic truck. [00:16:10] Speaker A: Yeah. So it's pretty sanitary. I mean, I would think if you're being able to wash everything off. Yeah. [00:16:16] Speaker B: Well, just hearing him talk about or hearing the stories that I've heard, Did [00:16:19] Speaker A: you imagine the things you find down inside? Know, I'd love to talk to that guy. Get him in here. That's who we need to talk to. The things you would find. I'm surprised he ain't found dead bodies down in them. [00:16:30] Speaker B: I'm sure there. I'm sure he's probably some stuff he probably won't even. Wouldn't even talk about. I might be able to try to do that, but I don't know if he'd do it or not. He's kind of. He's kind of backwards. [00:16:39] Speaker A: It might be kind of busy. [00:16:40] Speaker B: You don't really, he is very busy, but. And he's got like a skeleton crew, too. He's only got like five dudes that work for him. Yeah. And he's rolling a. I think a multi million dollar company, but they're just all. And he pays them good too, though. [00:16:54] Speaker A: See, that's what we need. We need to think of something like that to do. You got to get outside the box. [00:16:58] Speaker B: Problem is. The problem is you need winning, more passive. We need something that's more passive. So it's just. You don't. The problem is we ain't got no time for labor. [00:17:08] Speaker A: Much money I got either. [00:17:09] Speaker B: That's. [00:17:10] Speaker A: That's a little bit. [00:17:11] Speaker B: Well, of course, that's all of us. [00:17:12] Speaker A: That's a little bit of my problem. But it comes to that. [00:17:15] Speaker B: Yeah, there's. But there's so much you can do. There's. So like you said, the excuses are like. They're just lame. [00:17:23] Speaker A: Yeah. I haven't heard. I mean, I've never heard a good excuse, I guess, but I haven't heard about any of these jobs or talk to anybody about them. So you're. You're way up on me on that [00:17:35] Speaker B: most of the time. The. The septic guy that comes in, he was telling me. He was telling me there the other day. He said. He said he done one job like six to seven hours, he said. It was like. He showed me videos and stuff of it, and he's. He's digging like. He's got his own backhoe and stuff, so I'm sure he's charging per hour on that. [00:17:54] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:17:55] Speaker B: He said that six hours. Six hours was $3,800 in six hours. [00:18:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:01] Speaker B: To do all that. But I mean, he's got a. He's got a probably a $50,000 excavator that he's digging it out with, you know, and material and time and all that. But it's just him and his dad. Just him and his dad. 3, $800. I was like, man, that's really good. I was like, what do you get? You know, because I've got. I've got. I've got. I probably need to pump my septic. And he's like, oh, it's about 400 a hole. I was like, I'm sorry. He said, I'd let you do it for 4. 400 a hole, but I'd usually charge, you know. [00:18:30] Speaker A: Yeah, 500. [00:18:31] Speaker B: 4 to 500. [00:18:32] Speaker A: I just had mine done like last year. I had to. I pulled. I had to put new fill lines in too. Mom are completely Crap. So. [00:18:43] Speaker B: Yeah, well, that's, [00:18:47] Speaker A: you know, pressure. People do pressure, you know. Cameron. [00:18:50] Speaker B: Yeah, Pressure. [00:18:50] Speaker A: Yeah. He does pressure washing. [00:18:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:53] Speaker A: But again, you're dealing with people doing that, you know, you're still satisfying someone. Oh, yeah. You need to find something better. [00:19:00] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. You got to get away from that. That's. That takes a lot of. Yeah, it takes a lot of time. My cousins, you know, do lawn care. They said down in the village because people like, down in the village for like mowing yards and stuff, they said that those people would prefer somebody to come along with a push mower and then push mow that yard. And they would probably pay them twice the amount as they would a standard lawn care. [00:19:27] Speaker A: Just to make it look neater. [00:19:28] Speaker B: Yeah. Cleaner, neater. It's not as hard on the ground, that sort of thing, you know. [00:19:33] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. It tears them yard because all that, you know, sod when it's put down, you know, and you get in there, you twist them with them big old heavy mowers. It tears that yard. [00:19:41] Speaker B: There was a guy, he drove all the way. One of my customers. He drove all the way from deep down in Madisonville, downtown Madisonville. So that's 20 minutes from here. And he drove all the way to Sevierville, to Dollywood every day and worked in the blacksmith in the back. [00:20:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:04] Speaker B: Pounded out metal all day long. And I was like, do you. Not ever. I mean, what do you. I'm like. He's like, I make all the, you know, he said. Because I just. In my mind, I didn't understand, like those guys that's pounding out black blacksmithing up there, they're actually. That's what's for sale. [00:20:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:23] Speaker B: I didn't know that. I don't know why I didn't. [00:20:26] Speaker A: It's just like glass blow. [00:20:27] Speaker B: The glass blowing the same thing. Yeah. There's just. But I just thought it was like a little thing. You just walk up and watch it. Oh, it's cool. You know, I didn't realize. You go around, you know, you go over there to the. You can buy what he's made, you know. [00:20:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:40] Speaker B: And so he makes. He makes an hourly rate of like. I think it was like $28 an hour and everything that's. He makes, he makes like 15% commission off of it. [00:20:53] Speaker A: If it sells. [00:20:54] Speaker B: If it sells. Yeah. But I mean, most everything up there does sales, like he said. He said. But you know, he said like the, the metal things that twist, you know, the almost look like banisters, but they're. They're. They Got like a roll to them. He said, like those things sell for like, I think he told me like 50 or $60. Well, he makes like, he's making like 15 bucks off of them. [00:21:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:18] Speaker B: And he said you sell, you can't make them fast enough. He said so I mean, he said, he said it's a really good gig, you know, he said. And he's driving like a big old truck too. And, and, but, but they give you. They got 401k. He's got all benefits. He's got, you know, good package. But he makes commission at Dollywood Black Iron. [00:21:39] Speaker A: Yeah, I've met a bunch of people. So Tom, a guy that works for us, he. I think he worked at Dollywood for about 10 he. So he's a. He's actually a he. So when Covid hit, he was a traveling, like, evangelist is what he did. Yeah, the millions of miles in Delta is unreal, what he's got. I mean, he was leaving the country, he was flying everywhere, doing all. Anyway, Covid really crushed that. So he came to work for us sort of as a. I guess a full time gig until the country opened back up where he could do it. Now he. He works like four, maybe five days a week sometimes. But the four days a week, it's because he's traveling the other three doing the evangelist stuff. But he was actually Dollywood's very first chaplain and. [00:22:28] Speaker B: Really. [00:22:29] Speaker A: And he performed up there too. You know, the little theater. Yeah, so he did that too. He's a pretty interesting guy. We get him on here and talk to him. [00:22:38] Speaker B: We've got a guy that we used to do when I used to do the passion play up there. He does the. He is the dude. He's the IT guy for the drones. The drone show that they do up there. [00:22:50] Speaker A: Never even heard of it. [00:22:51] Speaker B: Oh, they've got an. Yeah, that. Like a drone show, you know. Okay. It's the same thing as. [00:22:55] Speaker A: I know what you're talking about. [00:22:56] Speaker B: You know, where the drones do all the same things and they make pictures and everything. Yeah, he's the dude that programs all the drones to do that stuff for Dollywood. [00:23:03] Speaker A: Can you imagine messing that up? How much money that would cost? Like, usually, who cares about all these people witnessing it? Think about all that money up there in that sky flying around. You make them all crash. [00:23:15] Speaker B: And usually they're doing it over water too. [00:23:17] Speaker A: You wouldn't work air long. I wouldn't work airline. Yeah, I could probably fly one drone. [00:23:22] Speaker B: He does, he works. He said it's a good company to work for. [00:23:27] Speaker A: Well, that's it. See, that's another thing you don't think. Think about, you know, stuff like that too. Yep. [00:23:33] Speaker B: Thought of something like that though. [00:23:34] Speaker A: I bet you those people like their jobs though, you know, up there performing and stuff like that. [00:23:39] Speaker B: They ain't really, I mean, it's really nothing to them. I mean they're just going up there and sitting on a ride or sitting on a. You know, taking, pulling tickets or whatever. It ain't, it ain't like having to, like you said, having to please someone. Yeah, yeah. It's not. They're going to get. They're going to get the enjoyment of the day, you know, they're already going to. They know they've already got their day set, that they're gonna, they're gonna have a good time, you know. [00:24:04] Speaker A: Well, imagine like the engineer for that train. Imagine what he makes. [00:24:08] Speaker B: I know. [00:24:09] Speaker A: What do you do? I drive a train and amusement park. [00:24:11] Speaker B: Yeah. And just go in a circle, huh? [00:24:13] Speaker A: Yeah. Quandot Katie. Yeah, that's her name. [00:24:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:19] Speaker A: She eats coal, blows smoke. [00:24:22] Speaker B: Well. [00:24:23] Speaker A: But yeah, there's a ton of stuff like that you, you just don't even think of as a job that we see. [00:24:27] Speaker B: And, and you know, he a go. [00:24:31] Speaker A: This old boy ain't going to drive to Dollywood though, I can tell you that. [00:24:34] Speaker B: You might for the right money. [00:24:35] Speaker A: That. Not me. [00:24:36] Speaker B: An hour. [00:24:37] Speaker A: That old boy you're talking about. [00:24:38] Speaker B: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, no, no, no, no, he ain't going to. No, no, I didn't even mention none of that to. [00:24:43] Speaker A: Sounds like he wouldn't work in a pie factory. [00:24:45] Speaker B: He wouldn't. He, no, he was making socks and couldn't make it there either. [00:24:51] Speaker A: Why? [00:24:52] Speaker B: I. I don't know. I have no idea. He couldn't make it. [00:24:55] Speaker A: How old is this guy? [00:24:56] Speaker B: 22. [00:24:58] Speaker A: Oh, you said it. In his 20s. [00:24:59] Speaker B: 20s. But anyways, yeah, I, I just, I can't, I can't get on board with that stuff. There's just too much out there. I thought about, I thought about going and working for UPS in the mornings just to have insurance. Because you don't have insurance when you're a, when you're a business owner, you know. [00:25:26] Speaker A: Well, you sure? [00:25:27] Speaker B: Yeah, you can. I know. Yes, yes. But yeah, you know what I mean? [00:25:30] Speaker A: Yeah. You gotta pay. [00:25:32] Speaker B: Outrageous. [00:25:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:33] Speaker B: And it ain't worth crap and it's garbage deductibles crap. But yeah, I mean, UPS up there, the guys are working four to six hours in the morning. But get this, this dudes are working. You got to get there at like 2:30, I think. 2, 2 or 2:30. [00:25:51] Speaker A: I've seen that job advertised before. [00:25:53] Speaker B: I don't think I could do it honestly for, for the insurance. Problem is I gotta come back down here and work. Yeah, I gotta run a business. [00:26:00] Speaker A: What time you leave work? If you were doing that job, you go in at 2:30 and get off [00:26:04] Speaker B: when you 2:30 you get off at like 8, 8 or 9. [00:26:08] Speaker A: Remember that story about Bristol I told. There ain't no way I could drive in there. There's no way, man. Especially just go load trucks. That's what you'd be doing, isn't it? [00:26:16] Speaker B: You're loading trucks all night long. [00:26:18] Speaker A: So I'd be so bitter. I bet those freaking drivers can get here and just drive off with them, make all the money. [00:26:24] Speaker B: Well yeah, because you're making. I think it's like 22 or 26 an hour, which is still really decent money. [00:26:30] Speaker A: I think so. Or it used to be. [00:26:33] Speaker B: It's decent money. But the thing is, is everybody gets it. Does it for, for benefits. I mean they do it for insurance. I do it for. You know. [00:26:41] Speaker A: I knew a guy, worked at Costco for the benefits just as a. Oh gosh. He used to like pick up the, the holiday seasons like around Christmas and stuff like those, those three months kind of getting ready for it and getting over it and all that. He would just work just then. And then it got to where I think maybe he had had like he did. He's old enough where like he didn't have to work, you know, or was well enough off where he didn't have to. But he was doing that for a while and it was just a part time gig for him. But he got insurance. Being a part timer. [00:27:18] Speaker B: That's the way they work. I mean that's like. I think it's like six hours a day there. Six hours a day. So you're making $120 a day for six hours. You got insurance, you got benefits, you got all the. You know. I know a guy who mows yards actually. He mows. He's got a decent sized lawn care and he mows yards for mows yards from 9 or 10 o' clock in the morning till, you know, I guess four or five during the day, all day long. But then he gets up two o', clock, goes out there and works just for his insurance. [00:27:58] Speaker A: Well, you could do that. If you could say yeah, I'm done for the day and go home and rest. You could probably make something like that work, you know, I Almost went to go work for Kevin. I was, there was a, there was an offer there. This is a while back, but there was a. They were wanting to hire somebody for a weekend shift and you'd go in at like 7pm on a Friday night and work to 7am the next morning and you do the same thing on Saturday and then Sunday morning or Sunday evening I guess anyway it was a three, it was 36 hours is what you'd work. They'd pay you for 40. You're considered a full time employee maintenance. You know, I had halfway thought about doing that and just mowing yours. That was going to be my little gig I was going to do. But yeah, they wouldn't, they wouldn't let, let him hire a family. [00:28:52] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, it sucks. [00:28:54] Speaker A: Ended up not working out. It's probably for the best though. That was a long time ago. But yeah, I don't know. Things happen for a reason or don't happen. [00:29:03] Speaker B: Being an owner. It's got its quirks though. It ain't all what it's cracked out to be, that's for sure. [00:29:09] Speaker A: If you could just own. Yeah, but it's this, it's the thing, man. If you can get out of the, not necessarily the retail world but out of the pleasing people world. I mean even like your cousin with the porta Potties, I mean he, you know, he can like you cannot please somebody. Like. Yeah. If you didn't show up and the porta potties were nice. [00:29:29] Speaker B: That's the only way. [00:29:30] Speaker A: Yeah. So I know I'm gonna go, I know I'm gonna deliver them and I know they're gonna be presentable when I drop them off or as presentable as a porta potty can be, you know, I mean you're expecting a porta Potty there, you ain't expecting, you know, but [00:29:43] Speaker B: to say, to say that, that, that there's not anything out there that's just a bunch of crap. There's people makes up jobs. There's a dude that comes in here and all he does is he gets online and sees a business that doesn't have a Google profile, doesn't have a webpage, doesn't have anything. He will sit down and I think it's the program that he uses somewhat. I don't know if he's been doing it for like four years now, but it's somewhat like AI. Yeah, but I don't know. But it's pre programmed. He just puts funnels all this information into it and it automatically populates. I don't Know enough about a computer to even think about doing it. But it automatically builds his website, builds him a Google platform to where people can review him, do all the stuff and then he goes and presents it to the, to the, to the business, to the business and says, hey, here's your web page, here's a landing page. You know, we can, if you want to do this, I can put your inventory in it, I can move this in it, I can put all this together and have all these Crawford, you know, cross references and all this, you know. And I was like, I was like, well when, how did you get started with that? You know? And he was like, ah, he said, he said, he said his, his, he said it was, I think it was his uncle. He said his uncle had a business, had a excavating business. But he wanted a website to where he could go on and they could, you know, just email him or text him or whatever through off of offline. And, and his uncle like he said like four, like four and a half years ago, he said his uncle just told him he's uncle, if you build me a nice website, he said, I'll give you 1500 bucks. He said because that's what, you know, so these average, they average out. Like to build a website to do all the stuff and basically hand it to you, turnkey ready to go, is like twelve hundred dollars. You don't have to touch nothing. [00:31:45] Speaker A: Man. I see all this stuff I, I gotta get. What is it, is it, is it text message? I think I get text messages or something about job offers like that. Like online stuff starting out, salaries, this whatever. Call this number if you're interested. Like you know anybody's ever done that. Is that stuff real? [00:32:02] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:32:03] Speaker A: I mean it's probably a scam. [00:32:04] Speaker B: It's probably the same thing when you get online. [00:32:06] Speaker A: Oh, scamming people, that's a perfect business. Yeah, somebody's in that business. They are, somebody's doing it. Yeah, I get that non stop. Like I wonder what they're paying these telemarketers. Sounds like it's won't work. That'd be a perfect job for him. Somebody aggravating. [00:32:26] Speaker B: Aggravate the crap out of somebody. [00:32:27] Speaker A: Yeah, well, yeah, it'd be perfect for him. He could even do it. Being an American you gotta be bang, [00:32:34] Speaker B: gotta be Indian or something. Middle East. [00:32:37] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, well, [00:32:40] Speaker B: I don't know, there's just a couple different things there that was just mind blowing to me that you could do. [00:32:50] Speaker A: I'd like to come up with a really Good one myself. [00:32:54] Speaker B: Everything's. I'd like to know, you know this. Once you see online, you know how to make. How to make passive income. How to make. Have you ever dove into how they make passive income? Like, like, I'm talking about, like on the online. Where you get on social media, how [00:33:15] Speaker A: people are doing it, like, methods. [00:33:16] Speaker B: They're doing it. Yeah. Like, there's almost like. [00:33:19] Speaker A: I mean, I've looked at it. [00:33:20] Speaker B: Yeah. Affiliate links and stuff. You know, like people do on Amazon. People will do like, okay, what's a hot, hot thing on Amazon? Boom. You go to Amazon. Okay, here's a hot link right here. Here's a. I don't know, we'll just say like a blender. It's a blender. We. So they've sold 33,000 of these this month. [00:33:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:37] Speaker B: So you go in there and you put your affiliate link in. And every time that someone buys a blender off of your affiliate link, same way with like, I don't have Tick Tock used to, but I don't know, more like Tick Tock Shop. It's the same exact setup. So when you get on the Tick Tock shop. Oh, this impact gun, it's the best. It's. Yeah. You know, they got their little affiliate link down there. We can do the same thing with Amazon. You can come affiliate link with, you know, an affiliate with them and to make it passive. But you have to find the item that everybody wants. [00:34:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:34:10] Speaker B: You know, because. But everybody else is doing it too. So you gotta. [00:34:13] Speaker A: You know what I do when I see stuff like that? [00:34:15] Speaker B: What's that? [00:34:15] Speaker A: I see somebody advertising something, I, I swap up on my iPhone, make it go away, and I just Google it. I don't ever. I mean, I don't order anything online anyway, but I would never get it. Like clicking on this, Click on this link right now. Yeah. I don't know. I don't. I didn't realize that's what they were doing. But I have, I guess I have probably wondered, like, why is this guy doing this? You know, they. [00:34:38] Speaker B: That's it. That's it. You know, oh, this is the best impact. And you'll even see like people you watch, like, if you watch somebody online. [00:34:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:34:46] Speaker B: They'll be like, you know, and you hear them all the time just go down in the, in the, in the, in the link, in the link and down there and you'll have, you'll have all the, you know, everything. If you want this gun, if you want this, you know, accessory for it, you want this, this and, well, they get paid. They get paid for all that. You know, that makes me think of [00:35:05] Speaker A: a video I watched, the guy that was doing spray foam for insulation. Spray foam insulation. I watched that one like two or three times. [00:35:13] Speaker B: I. [00:35:13] Speaker A: Now maybe, maybe I did click on that one. I think I might have clicked on that one, actually. Of course I didn't buy it, but, [00:35:19] Speaker B: you know, went on Google and found somebody else. [00:35:21] Speaker A: I found. Yeah, I think I was. I think I clicked on that, seen what it was. And then my service manager was like, no, I found one out of Chattanooga. It's way cheaper. Come here, back here. I'll show it to you on my computer or something. So it didn't work for him. [00:35:35] Speaker B: But. [00:35:36] Speaker A: But anyway, it. Yeah. [00:35:38] Speaker B: So another thing, if you. As far as passive income, the field that I'm in and you're in flipping vehicles, motorcycles, mowers. Mowers is a big one. Like I done. I flipped 3 or 4 last year personally on the side and made, I don't know, an extra six, six, $7,000 off three or four mowers. [00:36:11] Speaker A: Yeah, that's good. [00:36:12] Speaker B: That's really good. Absolutely. But there again, there you have the labor in that. So it's not as much passive income. It's not passive. That's because, yeah, it's just a hustle. But with passive income, it's so hard because if you don't have a ton of money to just throw down and just, you know, whether it be in stocks, whether it be in bonds, whether it be in CDs, whether it be anything, you know, to get a return, you have to have a good chunk of money for it to make a [00:36:49] Speaker A: big difference or it takes a long time to pay back if you can do without it for so long. [00:36:55] Speaker B: Yeah. And that's true. Or you start clearing and that's truly passive. But I have a hard time with it because I'm like, I know a little side hustle of flipping a car and making 3,000 on a flip, you know, and if I do that, you know, a couple times a year, I'm going to make more money. But I mean, I am going to have the labor involved in it. [00:37:18] Speaker A: Yeah. If I was rich, I'd put money in bonds or CDs or whatever and I would make money off. [00:37:24] Speaker B: Absolutely. But. But when you ain't got that kind of money. You ain't got. Yeah, you ain't got, you know, like you said, even putting even. [00:37:32] Speaker A: Now, I do think it is smart if you're setting money aside and it's for your for, for something that you have just, you've put it in your mind. I'm not touching this. For whatever. You might as well do something with it. [00:37:45] Speaker B: Absolutely. [00:37:45] Speaker A: To make the money on it while you can. [00:37:47] Speaker B: Absolutely. [00:37:48] Speaker A: If you're dead set, you're not touching it no matter what. [00:37:50] Speaker B: Never touch it. Absolutely. [00:37:51] Speaker A: Like money for my kids is for my kids. I'm not going into it. I can not have a pot to piss in and I'm not going to get into that. [00:37:57] Speaker B: No, no. So I agree with that. [00:37:59] Speaker A: That would be different. Like we'll lock theirs up in CDs and stuff, but I ain't doing it to mine. Yeah. Not. Or at least not right now. [00:38:05] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:38:06] Speaker A: And right now for the foreseeable future don't look like ever. Let's go ahead and tell you. So that's. But yeah, it's truly passive and affordable is what we need for. [00:38:20] Speaker B: Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Something that you can do that is. Yeah, yeah. Well, you see all that, you see all that stuff online. I just, sometimes I always, it doesn't matter what, what it is. I always feel like somebody's out there trying to screw me. It doesn't matter if you're trying to sell me, if you're trying to show me how to make passive income and you want me to give you 99 cent a month to make $30,000 extra a year, I wouldn't do it. [00:38:44] Speaker A: You ever wonder when you read about something or you hear about something, if it, whether be a video where you're reading about it like, and you don't act on it and you're, you ever wonder about it? Like, dang, I wonder if that's real. I do all wonder people are doing that. [00:38:59] Speaker B: I do it all the time. [00:39:00] Speaker A: Yeah, I do too. [00:39:01] Speaker B: I watch a guy, Grant Cardone. Anyways, he's a big commercial investor and I mean he's like multi, multi million. He might be even a billionaire. I don't know. But he started from like nothing and he has all these, he has all these videos and all this stuff that he pushes like, for you to buy. [00:39:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:26] Speaker B: And I'm like, I ain't paying 350something dollars. I just won't. I guess I just won't figure out what it takes. You know what I mean? [00:39:37] Speaker A: What does he want you to buy? [00:39:38] Speaker B: How to do it. He shows you how to do everything? [00:39:41] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah. [00:39:43] Speaker B: He shows you how to do everything. [00:39:44] Speaker A: But now, hey, I'll, I'll tell you. I just got back from a, a 20 group trip and they told me like successful wealthy people here. Okay. Told me free advice is not what you want. You want to pay for it. [00:40:04] Speaker B: Oh, I agree. I'm sure. So I'm sure with that being said. That's true. That's true. [00:40:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:40:10] Speaker B: Well, look at Dave Ramsey. [00:40:11] Speaker A: Although I walked up to him and asked him for some free advice right after that. [00:40:16] Speaker B: So, you know, well, look at Dave Ramsey. I mean, he ain't made his. He has made his money from investing and, and saving his money, but he also has made his money through his books. Everything that he sells online, the hardback books he sells, he makes money off of it. [00:40:35] Speaker A: Yeah, and he's a peggerhead too. [00:40:38] Speaker B: He is. [00:40:38] Speaker A: We do the Dave Ramsey envelope system, but, well, but he's a pecker head. That don't change anything. He is. Like, how are you like this? You're an idiot. You need to, you know, I mean, he's straightforward, but whatever. He's still a packer head. [00:40:54] Speaker B: But I do, I do often wonder sometimes, like you said, man, if I just hung in there with him for like two or three months. This dude says I don't have to have a dime to do what he's doing. I don't have to have a dime. Invest in. Like, how's that impossible? [00:41:08] Speaker A: Next thing you know, you're in a pyramid scheme somehow sit in trial somewhere. Yeah, that'd be my luck, you know? And here I am, all I'm trying to do better and just trying to [00:41:22] Speaker B: make it, Just trying to make it. [00:41:23] Speaker A: Now I got so much court cost. Okay, bankrupt. Yeah, bankrupt over court costs, trying to make money. But it happens to people. Actually, actually one of those guys that, that, that was talking to us there, he. He owns this company that all these businesses are a part of and we pay into and go talk to each other and go over stuff and good ideas and whatever. But he told us, I think it was, I think he said 16 years ago, 16 years ago, he truly had nothing. He was completely homeless. He had lost his home, lost everything. But I think his wife was driving a Honda Pilot and he had an old Chevrolet truck. [00:42:11] Speaker B: So is this all your 20 group? Is this all automotive? [00:42:14] Speaker A: It is. Everybody's done stuff in automotive, but he, he had lost. He had lost everything due to a bankruptcy problem. You said bankruptcy, so it made me think of this. But he had a 800 pickup truck. He said old pickup truck wasn't worth 800 bucks. My wife had a Honda Pilot. That's the only thing we can. We were sleeping in our car. We didn't even have A house. And what it was is that somebody. His. Maybe his partner or maybe didn't have a partner. It was his own bit. Anyway, someone was stealing from him and he didn't know it's what happened to them, so he ended up having to do that. But within 16 years, here he is back, back again. He's got three or four sometimes. [00:42:55] Speaker B: Sometimes something like that. No, I'm not just. I'm not saying somebody stealing from me, but like some. Well, of course that'll do too. But like going to the bottom. [00:43:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:06] Speaker B: And having to fight your way back up out of it. Yeah. I mean, it'll make. It'll make something. It'll really. [00:43:12] Speaker A: Well, no doubt he learned a good lesson out of it, you know, no doubt about it. [00:43:16] Speaker B: It'll make you fierce. [00:43:17] Speaker A: And I know he's found like, he goes through and he looks at these like you can pay him to come to your business and scout it out for you and tell you where you're losing money, where you can. What you can stand to do to make more money. And he's. He's picked up on people stealing money while he's there. I know. And probably save some businesses. [00:43:34] Speaker B: Wow. [00:43:34] Speaker A: You know, I know that's happened. So. But anyway, just for an example, though, but then that short amount of time, you know. [00:43:43] Speaker B: Yeah. 16 years. Well, you have. I've heard it numerous times. People going from the. The problem is with. With business, you know, the more. The more risk you take, the more money you make. [00:43:59] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:44:00] Speaker B: The more risk you take. And that's so hard to do sometimes when you want to be. You want your business to be debt free. You want your business to kind of pay for itself and, you know, you don't have to. You don't have a million dollars looming over top of you or, you know, a half a million dollars looming over top of you that you got to do something with. That's a good feeling that to have that you're debt free and your business is doing well. But you also, like, there's a guy that owns an excavating business. He went from probably one of the, you know, I think it was what he say was established in 2008. So when we graduated high school, he's just starting and probably has the largest excavating business probably in East Tennessee. So, I mean, yeah, he got. What's he got now? He bought a big company out of Knoxville and he's got 50 dump trucks that he runs. Has 50 dump trucks. I don't know, it might be small, but that's huge to me. [00:45:05] Speaker A: Sounds massive to me. [00:45:06] Speaker B: Yeah. But he, you know, he went from absolutely running a skid steer. Just running a skid steer and his pickup truck and a dump trailer in 08 to 50 dump trucks. And what did he say? 70. 73 employees. [00:45:26] Speaker A: Good Lord. [00:45:27] Speaker B: Yeah. Since, you know, 08. I mean, I know that's 20 years, you know, roughly pushing 20 years, but still, that's just. That's crazy. But risk. Oh, yeah, risk. [00:45:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:40] Speaker B: I mean, you got. You go out and buy $400,000 dump truck or quarter. I think they're quarter million. Quarter million dollar dump truck. And you got 40 of them. Just went out and bought 10 of them. Well, he ain't paying for that cash. He ain't paying for that stuff. Cash. That stuff's on a. That stuff's on a loan. That's a lot of money to gamble. [00:46:03] Speaker A: Yeah, but when you can. When you can buy something that makes you money, it pays for long. [00:46:08] Speaker B: He told me. He told me. He told me. He said, if I have a truck one day. One day a truck's broke down. I don't know how true this is. I'm sure it's pretty true. He told me if I have one dump truck broke down. I'm sorry. It was a month. He said, if I have a. Because he said there's a dump truck sitting broke down. It's been broke down for almost a month. He said, that's $30,000 a month is what that thing. He said it's roughly by the time it profits me, anywhere between $1,000 and $1,500 a day. [00:46:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:39] Speaker B: Time he pays his driver, fuel cost, everything. He said that thing does about. About $1,500 a day is what it does. And you're looking at it. I'm like, gosh, that ain't much, but when you've got 50 of them. [00:46:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:52] Speaker B: Running. He said about $30,000 a month. What are you losing? I was like, gosh, that's crazy. Just to think of it like, well, [00:47:00] Speaker A: that's why those guys are these businesses. They don't. They don't care. They'll walk in our shop and they'll say, we're dropping us off for this issue. All right, we'll call you when we find out what it is. Don't call me. Just fix it. Cost me more money to talk to you on the phone. And that truck not to be down. Then it does anything you can charge me. Just fix it. [00:47:15] Speaker B: I've got lawn care guy. It's like that. I Got a lawn care guy that does not matter the price. He don't ask the price on a mower. He don't ask a price on a. You know, I still give him the best deal that I can give him and I do him a good deal on him. When he services stuff, he'll just drop off eight pieces of equipment and say, you know, fix them, whatever it needs. Don't. Just don't call me, you know, if I'm broke down out there. I mean, this dude's probably turning out. He's probably turning out anywhere between 25 to 30 $500 a day. So if he's broke down and he's having a fool broke down machine, he's losing a lot of money. [00:47:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:53] Speaker B: You know, so if I repair something for him and it cost, you know, I just done his. I just done tires all the way around on his stub. On his stub nose, you know, didn't even, you know, clean adjust the rear brakes, put pads on the front, shoes on the rear. What was it? I don't remember. Seventeen hundred bucks, something like that. Seventeen eighteen hundred dollars. I didn't even tell him what the cost was, you know, so it's one of those things that you just do [00:48:26] Speaker A: it sounds like a pretty good deal, actually. Do all that. [00:48:31] Speaker B: I'll take care of him. [00:48:32] Speaker A: But. [00:48:34] Speaker B: But anyways. Yeah. They're those guys that, you know, and he's another one. He started from the bottom. I mean he started. He was basically homeless. [00:48:44] Speaker A: Well. [00:48:44] Speaker B: And I think they have that fight in them too. Those people got that fight in them. [00:48:48] Speaker A: Oh yeah. Not quit. [00:48:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:51] Speaker B: Don't matter what it takes. They're not going back to that place again. [00:48:54] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:48:57] Speaker B: But there again the risk. You can bite you in the butt too. [00:49:02] Speaker A: Yeah. You don't make money by not spending money. You got to spend it to make. [00:49:05] Speaker B: Make it. [00:49:06] Speaker A: So that's how it works. It's just hard to do it. [00:49:09] Speaker B: It's hard to wrap your mind around it. [00:49:11] Speaker A: Absolutely it is. [00:49:12] Speaker B: It's hard to drop down 10,012 or 10,000 $20,000 and just hope that something happens, you know? [00:49:22] Speaker A: Yeah, y. It is. [00:49:28] Speaker B: Oh, well, I guess that's about it guys. I'm glad we got our mics fixed. I hope it sounds a lot better this go around so. But thanks. Thanks again hanging out with us on the second floor. We'll catch you guys next time. [00:49:42] Speaker A: Thanks everybody.