Society is OUT OF ORDER!

[00:00:03] Speaker A: Where are they? [00:00:04] Speaker B: They're probably upstairs. They never answer the door. Oh, wait, it's Monday night. They're on the second floor. [00:00:24] Speaker A: Hey, guys, welcome back to second Floor Sessions. Thanks for joining us again. I can't take the world. I can't take the. The prices. You know what I heard? [00:00:38] Speaker B: What's that? [00:00:40] Speaker A: Did you watch the Super Bowl? [00:00:41] Speaker B: I watched the Super Bowl. I watched a little bit of it. [00:00:44] Speaker A: I didn't watch all of it, so I've not watched it. I've not watched it. But I'm on some social media and I've seen clips or scores or updates or whatever else. I did not watch any of it. [00:00:57] Speaker B: And. [00:01:01] Speaker A: I heard that the ticket prices was like five grand for a basic seat. [00:01:08] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. $4,300. [00:01:11] Speaker A: I'm curious to know. [00:01:12] Speaker B: Basic seat. [00:01:13] Speaker A: I'm curious to know how much they're paying those kickers. That's what I want to know. They should have just lined them up on each end, let them kick field goals, see who make the most in four quarters. [00:01:23] Speaker B: Three quarters of field goals is all we had, so. Besides. [00:01:27] Speaker A: But that's all I know about it. Fill me in. What do you know? [00:01:29] Speaker B: Well, I didn't watch a whole lot of the game because I got really bored, but I couldn't believe. So in the midst of all this, I started googling what the cost was of tickets and food and drinks and all this other stuff at the Super Bowl. [00:01:49] Speaker A: I can't even take it. [00:01:51] Speaker B: I'm thinking, like, for me, I. If I go on a trip somewhere, I struggle paying a couple thousand dollars to have a really nice trip. These jokers are paying $4,500 for some nosebleed seats at the Super Bowl. Do you know how out of line your life either. Okay, now before I say this, you may have a lot of money, but I was reading also that people, like, they'll do just about anything. They're that big of a nut for NFL football that they'll just about sell their kid to get a seat at the football game for the NFL. I mean, for the Super Bowl. So I just think how out of line you have to be with your finances to pay that kind of money. And then this super bowl was at. This super bowl was at California, of all places. [00:02:47] Speaker A: I put surgeries off for that kind of money. [00:02:50] Speaker B: I thought he did okay. [00:02:52] Speaker A: There you go. [00:02:53] Speaker B: There you go. Exactly. [00:02:55] Speaker A: I would put something like maybe not life or death, because you gotta live. I know. [00:02:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:02:59] Speaker A: I mean, any other kind of minor. [00:03:01] Speaker B: Surgery, get a bone realigned or something. [00:03:03] Speaker A: I'LL be all right. [00:03:04] Speaker B: I'll be wrist be looking like this. [00:03:07] Speaker A: Seriously. [00:03:08] Speaker B: I know what you're moving. [00:03:09] Speaker A: I put that crap off tonight. [00:03:12] Speaker B: I look at that kind of stuff and I'm like, just for a couple. So you know how many seats is in the was at that stadium? [00:03:19] Speaker A: No, I do not know. [00:03:21] Speaker B: 70,000 seats. Okay, 70,000 seats. If you just do the average. [00:03:26] Speaker A: I can't wait to hear this. [00:03:27] Speaker B: Just do the average of per seat. That's $300 million. That's just the average. But you know how much the box seat is. You know what a box. [00:03:39] Speaker A: Let me guess, let me guess, let me guess, let me guess, let me guess. What was the average seat cost? What's the Average seat cost? [00:03:45] Speaker B: $4,300. [00:03:47] Speaker A: $4,300 in a box. [00:03:50] Speaker B: But now we're talking about a box seat box. To rent that room out in a box seat. [00:03:55] Speaker A: A hundred thousand. [00:03:58] Speaker B: You wouldn't be able to smell the air inside that room for that. [00:04:01] Speaker A: Oh, gosh. Okay. So nice. [00:04:03] Speaker B: From the cheapest of 600,000 to the highest of 1.5 million in a box. [00:04:11] Speaker A: How many people can fit in that box? [00:04:12] Speaker B: You know, 16 to 20. And it says there's an executive. [00:04:16] Speaker A: So what does that come out to? [00:04:18] Speaker B: There's an executive that's like 1.8. That fits 32 people. So almost $2 million to fit 32 people. [00:04:24] Speaker A: So what was the other one? 1.6, 1.5? [00:04:28] Speaker B: 600,000. That's probably your 16 box. Okay, and to 20 was. But at 600,000 and one and a half. One and a half million for a box seat. I just. [00:04:40] Speaker A: That's $37,500 a seat. What are they doing in there? Dental work and anything. Surgeries, Anything else you need in there. Good gosh. [00:04:52] Speaker B: But so just. Okay, take a guess. 50 yard line. What's 50 yard line cost? 50 yard line. Not even in a box. [00:05:02] Speaker A: So your basics are like nose bleed, one end zone. Is that what you're saying? [00:05:06] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:05:08] Speaker A: Not even in a box is it. Would it be considered A. So 50 yard line can go way up, but are these lower seats or higher seats? Nosebleed. [00:05:19] Speaker B: This is an average 50. This is a 50 seat or a 50 yard line average. So there's going to be. [00:05:25] Speaker A: There's a. I'm so ignorant to the super bowl prices. Let's. Let's say $100,000 again. [00:05:29] Speaker B: No, no, no, no. [00:05:30] Speaker A: I'm way home. [00:05:32] Speaker B: It's actually. That would be a little bit too much. It's 20 to 40 thousand dollars per seat. And anything outside, supposedly outside of the. From the 40 to the other 40, then it varies to like 15. So you're going 20 to 40 in the middle. And anything outside that, it just starts falling off on both sides. But. But you're towards the end zone, it goes back up. So it's like this gradual in the middle. You're at the highest and it goes down and then it comes back up towards the end zone. It's really, really wild. So, but 20 to $40,000 now I'm like one, one, one. One seat. [00:06:15] Speaker A: I'm like you. One to $2,000 for a vacation is almost unbearable. [00:06:23] Speaker B: I know. [00:06:23] Speaker A: For me, I don't want to spend that kind of money. [00:06:26] Speaker B: They said that the loan rate, like people pay for this all year long. [00:06:32] Speaker A: Shut up. [00:06:33] Speaker B: All year long. They said. Like now, I don't know how true that this exactly was, but they did say that people put, like, if you go one time to a Super bowl, they said people could pay three to five years on getting that loan paid back off just to go to a Super Bowl. Is that not nuts? I can't even imagine. When I sit at my house. When I sit at my house, sit there and I was able to sit in my underwear if I wanted to. I could sit there naked if I wanted to. I can do whatever I want. [00:07:07] Speaker A: So if I can't have something to show for the money I've spent, I have a very hard time spending on it. Me too. Well. [00:07:19] Speaker B: Another one will blow your mind. They had 200 premium burgers there. Premium burgers. They call them the LX. The LX burger. That's the 60th anniversary burger. 200 of them. $180 a piece for a burger. [00:07:39] Speaker A: What made them so special? [00:07:40] Speaker B: Beef shank. That's what you get. Beef shank and two buns beef. $180 just off them. 200 burgers is 40,000. [00:07:49] Speaker A: They come with fries. [00:07:51] Speaker B: No, you gotta buy extra for that. Burgers was like your average burger cost is $45. Your drinks are. What was it? 20, 23 to $25 drinks. [00:08:04] Speaker A: So I just like going to the movies? [00:08:08] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Just almost. I just can't see. Like, even if I had a lot of money, there's no way that I would pay that kind of money to go to a Super Bowl. But what's really big now. So they said that they called it relief money that they got out of doing this super bowl, that California got $18 billion of relief money is what they got out of this Super Bowl. That was. They called it economic relief. From the super bowl. Was economic relief. [00:08:46] Speaker A: Where'd that money come from? [00:08:47] Speaker B: That's from the Super Bowl. Whatever they generated. I don't know if that's from outside sale. I have no idea how they got that number, but that's okay. But the big thing is with like. And I'm sure that you've seen all the betting apps and stuff, so betting on these ball games, a lot of people lost a lot of money because they were not. Nobody was projected to watch 10 field goals. [00:09:11] Speaker A: No. At the super bowl, you're betting on touchdowns and everything's a loss there. [00:09:17] Speaker B: Yes. So every. Everything you know was field goal. So a lot of money was lost. And the only people who gained was the betting. The betting. Yeah. [00:09:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:09:34] Speaker B: The guys. That was so Vegas. I did read. I did read that the dude that streaked the field, streaked the field in 24 also. [00:09:45] Speaker A: I bet people were putting bets on him like crazy. [00:09:48] Speaker B: So no, listen. No, you just wait, fix and blow your mind. So in 24. In 24, the Joker done it. He put a bet on himself. $5,000 bet himself. Guess how much money that turned him. [00:10:05] Speaker A: Five million? [00:10:06] Speaker B: No, Lord, no, not that much. I'm sorry. $110,000 in 24. Well, he won off that, had $42,000 in fines, so, I mean, he. Technically, he cleared $70,000 in profit that year after his ticket. After his fines and his football ticket was paid for. Then they kicked him out. Yeah. So 20, 26 rolls up. He goes some. He goes to Walmart and buys him a disguise, goes into the Super Bowl. [00:10:41] Speaker A: Oh, so like, he's been banned. [00:10:43] Speaker B: That's what he was. Yeah, he was banned. He was banned. So I don't know what they're going to do with him now. I mean, so now he's got. He bet. He. He bet $30,000 this go round for return. And he put it to the minute. He bet the minute of when it was going to happen. Oh, heck, dude, it was smart. [00:11:05] Speaker A: Yeah, well, you got people betting against that. [00:11:07] Speaker B: Yeah, you got to get against it and when it's going to happen. And you know, he bet to the minute of when it was going to happen. He bet 30 GS this time and got almost a quarter of a million dollars. Got another $50,000 in fine, $5,000 ticket. And he said a $20 disguise. And I made he come out with like 170,000, 175,000 in one little instance. [00:11:33] Speaker A: That's. That's creative. That's been, you know, he made all that money that I don't know. Yeah, yeah. [00:11:38] Speaker B: Within 30 seconds, I seen her dude. [00:11:43] Speaker A: Some dude street cross through there. Yeah. Golly. Nobody's ever thought of that. It's a perfect business. [00:11:50] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. And I've seen where in one state alone was $60 million worth of money that was transferred within the betting apps. $60 million. That is just mind blowing to me. Tennessee had. They were. They were only like. They were only like 14 million or something like that in Tennessee. That bet. I think this was. I want to say it was like Wisconsin or something like that. I can't remember. It was a. It was an odd state. I was like, why in the world Wisconsin? You know, you know, you figured like Washington or somebody else, you know, that. [00:12:36] Speaker A: Packers fans up there in Wisconsin. [00:12:37] Speaker B: Yeah. Or New. New England, you know, In New England. But yeah, it was almost $60 million. I just think it's so crazy that people would spend that much money to go to this football game to watch what. You watched that, which was just. I felt like it was an absolute crap show for a, you know, it. [00:13:01] Speaker A: Sounded like it was. Yeah. I don't know. [00:13:03] Speaker B: For a, you know, a 29 to 13 with three field goals in the first three quarters. [00:13:10] Speaker A: So what happened in the fourth quarter? Tell me that. [00:13:13] Speaker B: Well, I mean, Seahawks put 17 on the board, and then, you know, fourth quarter, fourth quarter, Patriots tried to come on. They put 13 on. But I mean, it's a little late in the fourth quarter. Didn't score anything. Didn't score the first point till fourth. Fourth quarter at like, I don't know, like eight minutes left, but two. Put two scores up on the board. But I don't know, it's just. I think it's ridiculous. I mean, you talking about this, the stuff that people would spend their money on. I, I got so bored. That's where I, I, you know, pulled most of that stuff from. I wonder was offline. I was just like, this is. [00:13:59] Speaker A: I wonder what the average super bowl ticket was cost was 30 years ago. Or was it doing a Super Bowl 30 years ago? [00:14:09] Speaker B: Yeah, this is Super Bowl 60. This was Super Bowl 60. [00:14:13] Speaker A: I don't watch NFL, dude. [00:14:15] Speaker B: I don't either. And I mean, I watched it. [00:14:17] Speaker A: I watched highlights. [00:14:19] Speaker B: I watched highlights of it. [00:14:20] Speaker A: So let's. I'm gonna look that up. Oh, I'm curious to what we got right there. [00:14:23] Speaker B: Well, I think it's absolutely bizarre that. That people would spend that kind of money. I mean, let us. Let me know what you guys. I mean, would you guys Would you guys go to the Super Bowl? I just, I can't. [00:14:39] Speaker A: There might be somebody listening. I did go. [00:14:41] Speaker B: I'd love to. I'd love to hear if somebody's listening to us that went to the Super Bowl. [00:14:46] Speaker A: Hey, I might know somebody. I don't even know. I probably do, honestly. There's probably somebody I know that actually wins. I know people. It's been before. [00:14:54] Speaker B: We're. We're in a. I just, I don't, I can't. I can't get my mind around that. That the way the economy is right now, and it ain't the best that it, it's just still not a thriving economy, no matter how you look at it. Well, spend that kind of money whenever. [00:15:17] Speaker A: Whenever these, these kids get out of school and they're trying to, they're trying to make. Whether they're leaving college or whether they didn't go to college, you know, some of them may have student loan debt or some of them may, you know, just be trying to make it, you know, without all that other debt. But how in the heck can you, you know, used to, we could say, well, we moved out of mom and dad's, you know, and we were ready to go. [00:15:40] Speaker B: Bought my house in 2008 when I graduated high school at 18 years old, I bought my house. [00:15:46] Speaker A: Well, okay, that's what I'm getting at. How is this next generation or this generation coming up supposed to be able to afford that when they got to pay $2,000 to rent an apartment? How can they save money to even buy a house? You gonna rent the rest of your life? [00:16:06] Speaker B: Most of them are living with mom and Dad. [00:16:07] Speaker A: I mean, I refuse to rent. I just absolutely refused it. [00:16:11] Speaker B: I don't think renting is a bad thing. I really do not. [00:16:13] Speaker A: I couldn't stand to put my. Like I said, I'm big on having something to show. [00:16:17] Speaker B: I get it. [00:16:18] Speaker A: You know, that was so. I guess that's probably part of me. [00:16:20] Speaker B: Is why, okay, if you wasn't the mechanic that you are, and if I wasn't the mechanic that I am and the hands on kind of person I am, the plumbing work that I could do, the electrical work that I can do, all the ins and the little odd times. Yeah. The stuff that we can do. Renting would be for me if I had to call, for instance, my cousin told me, he told me, he said I had. He owned some rental houses. They told me that their renter called and said they got a mouse and he went to, he had to go. He had to go Figure out why these people. I mean, I think these was probably 30, 40 year olds that these people, how they had to. He had to go figure out why they had mice. And she thought it was because a little hole in the kitchen cabinets. Yeah, well, she didn't think about the cereal that's down here and the oats that are down here and all this other stuff that's in bags and boxes. It's not in like plastic containers and stuff. [00:17:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:34] Speaker B: It's like they've never. I'm like, how are you 40 years old and you don't realize that that's what that'll cause that if you don't do something with it. But going to the renting thing, you just pick up a phone and call the landlord. Hey, I've got a light bulb out in the bathroom. Change the fricking thing. Change the fricking thing. Well, we don't have light bulbs here. Go to the fricking store and get them. [00:18:01] Speaker A: I mean, you know where that comes from, right? [00:18:04] Speaker B: Swear. [00:18:04] Speaker A: Please tell me who raised them. They obviously have never seen anyone try to catch a mouse. They've never seen anyone change a light bulb. [00:18:13] Speaker B: I just, I can't. [00:18:14] Speaker A: I can't think about it. I mean, really, seriously. [00:18:16] Speaker B: But I'm just saying that's why people rent. Well, if you're going to, if you're. [00:18:20] Speaker A: Going maintenance free, you gotta change your light bulbs in your own lamps. [00:18:23] Speaker B: I got news for you. [00:18:24] Speaker A: If you rent well, you know, I mean, now they may come in and do some kind of rodent or pest control stuff. Yeah. You know, but I mean, you're going to change it on light bulbs no matter what. [00:18:35] Speaker B: I just, I know you call your. [00:18:37] Speaker A: Tenant to wipe your butt too. [00:18:39] Speaker B: Well, I'm sure they probably would. I just. But I could get on if, if they take care of you like that, if the renters, if the landlords take care of you like that. Why would you not? I don't want to have to crawl up underneath my house when I've got a, a toilet flange leaking and fix it. Yeah, but I do, you know, faucets leaking, fix that. You know, shoot. You call the landlord. That's why you rent. [00:19:10] Speaker A: These prices have changed so much. [00:19:14] Speaker B: Oh, you talking about what? For what? [00:19:15] Speaker A: Oh, for the super bowl stuff. Yeah, I'm looking up all kinds anyway. It's just, it's insane. All over the board. [00:19:22] Speaker B: Well, I just. [00:19:24] Speaker A: Through the years. [00:19:24] Speaker B: Well, the. And also the whole, you know, now. [00:19:28] Speaker A: That. [00:19:31] Speaker B: Things are so high that like, you know, renting. Okay, if you rent Something. There is nothing in that house generally that you have to buy. If you go to a house that's, you know, you'll have your, you'll have your stove, you'll have your dishwasher, appliance wise, all your appliances, generally you have washer and dryer. Most houses, well, there's nothing you have to worry about. Your fridge goes out, you call. Your H Vac goes out, you call. [00:19:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:58] Speaker B: So you know your H Vac unit. How much is h vac unit? 5,000. On the cheap side, five to eight thousand? [00:20:05] Speaker A: I'm about to find out, but I don't know. [00:20:07] Speaker B: So 5 to 8,000, if you got a decent sized house, you know, could be close to $10,000. So that's the advantage of renting. But I think a lot of people also rent because they, they. Yeah, they can't afford a 500,000 half a million dollar home. [00:20:26] Speaker A: Yeah. Or you have, or you have thousands of dollars in student. Student loan debt, then maybe you can't get a loan. [00:20:32] Speaker B: My gosh. Yeah, student loan debt. Okay, okay, okay, okay. [00:20:39] Speaker A: All right, so what? [00:20:42] Speaker B: I have a few people in my family that are go for it, you know, for college. College or bust. And I was absolutely floored when someone in my family, not going to mention any names. He's. They're 50 years old and still paying on student loans. Student loans. Shut up. I'm not even kidding. And I said, well, what do you. How does that even work? I said, we're talking four years of school and you're still paying at 50 years old, you don't have any sort of grant. You ain't got nothing. They didn't give you nothing. Did they make you. You must have had to pay them double to go to school or something. [00:21:31] Speaker A: Has he done anything since then? [00:21:33] Speaker B: What do you mean? No, he's been in the same exact. [00:21:35] Speaker A: Working. I'm talking about making money. [00:21:37] Speaker B: Yeah, he makes money, but. [00:21:38] Speaker A: But still putting it towards that. [00:21:40] Speaker B: Well, I don't know. It blew my mind. But where I'm going with that is. [00:21:45] Speaker A: You pay a house off in less than that. [00:21:48] Speaker B: I know that. No joke. I know that. Good lord. [00:21:51] Speaker A: What is he, a doctor? Vet. [00:21:54] Speaker B: Therapist, she. [00:21:55] Speaker A: Whatever. [00:21:56] Speaker B: Therapist. [00:21:56] Speaker A: Whatever it is. [00:21:56] Speaker B: Therapist. [00:21:59] Speaker A: But. [00:22:01] Speaker B: And we have to have those people too. I didn't go, I didn't go to college. [00:22:07] Speaker A: Same. [00:22:08] Speaker B: You didn't go to college. [00:22:09] Speaker A: Yeah, you know that. Y' all know that. Yeah, I do. [00:22:12] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, we didn't go to college. [00:22:13] Speaker A: Yeah. Didn't even try. Didn't flunk you out. [00:22:16] Speaker B: We. I just, I Just think like the guys, you know. Cause I mean, our, our teachers, they pushed it down our throats, or I feel like they did. You better go to college. You better go to college. My tech teachers did not. But my. Everybody that was in that high school shoved it down my throat that you needed to go to college. Did they? You. [00:22:40] Speaker A: I probably didn't care enough to hear what they had to say, honestly. [00:22:43] Speaker B: Well, I mean, I was just always. That's. But that's what everybody ever told you, you need to go to college. You need to go to college. [00:22:48] Speaker A: So you remember when you signed up for high school classes, when you were going to high school out of middle school? [00:22:54] Speaker B: No, I don't remember that. [00:22:55] Speaker A: Well, you had to pick your classes that you wanted to take. You had, you know, you had to elect what classes you wanted. Okay. And you could take a university path, a tech path. [00:23:07] Speaker B: Oh, tech path. [00:23:08] Speaker A: Yeah, you could do all those different paths. [00:23:10] Speaker B: Okay. Okay. [00:23:11] Speaker A: Well, I didn't until my senior year. [00:23:15] Speaker B: Okay. [00:23:15] Speaker A: I had everything I needed up to before I started my senior year to go on a. To a university path. I mean, I took all my. I took my, My foreign arts classes, whatever. You had to have so many math and science. [00:23:29] Speaker B: So you took the university class. [00:23:31] Speaker A: I did up until my senior year. And I decided, God, well, I hate school enough to where I don't want to do this anymore, you know? And then I started not taking as many. [00:23:41] Speaker B: I. I thought. [00:23:45] Speaker A: But I can't remember if somebody pushed that on me or not. I mean, my mom and dad were probably like, you ought to go to college or something. And then, you know, I don't know. [00:23:53] Speaker B: But my. So I do remember. And I. Even people in my family, they were like, you need to go to college. You need to go to college. Well, it takes all different kinds that I had. A guy you grew up with, a guy I went to school with. The teacher told him that he was going to be a failure. [00:24:19] Speaker A: I know you're talking about. You've said this to me several times. [00:24:22] Speaker B: Yeah, but he's going to be a failure. You ain't going to be nothing. You'll be working for me or you'll be working. You'll be working for somebody your whole life. Yeah, the dude is the most successful. Many guys that we. Michael, Cody, Matt, Matt, Bail, Bill, all these guys that are absolutely blue collar. Well, even. Even Dustin. Dustin. I mean, all these guys that are. That are succeeding in life didn't go to college, they're excelling. And I look back at one in particular and I'LL tell you later. Which one? The teacher I'm talking about. [00:25:00] Speaker A: I know which teacher. [00:25:02] Speaker B: Well, okay, history. [00:25:03] Speaker A: Right. [00:25:04] Speaker B: Well, that's one of them. But. But the one. Yes, the one that was with Cody. But I look back and I'm sitting there thinking, and it's not all about how much money you make now. I mean, it is to a certain extent, but I look at it and I'm like, that dude is putting down in six months what you're putting down in a year that, you know, at school. I mean, he's putting down. He might be doing it in three months. These guys are putting up money that's, you know, so to tell those guys to push this stuff down their throats, that we've got to have this. You've got to have this. You got to have this. That is a bunch of bs. [00:25:44] Speaker A: Absolutely. [00:25:45] Speaker B: That is so much bs because that is not even. There's no. There's no. I mean, you're. I mean. [00:25:51] Speaker A: So let's take. [00:25:52] Speaker B: You're a manager of a shop. Yeah. And it didn't take nothing to. You know, I won't say it didn't take nothing, but it didn't take a piece of paper to get there. No, but it didn't. I just. I just find it so hard to believe that. That. But. But the guy. I just wonder, some of the people who chose that university path and went to school for four years, is it paying off because I'm not paying student loans? [00:26:20] Speaker A: I know some that are like. That we went to school with. [00:26:23] Speaker B: Okay. That are. [00:26:24] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah. Okay. [00:26:25] Speaker B: Well, I don't know. [00:26:26] Speaker A: And I'm sure there's some that isn't. But I'll. I'll tell you this. So let's assume what you're getting at here, which is, you know, let's. Let's get this straight. He's not saying. Or we're not saying college is a scam, you know, because it could be for some and it might be different for others. [00:26:43] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. [00:26:45] Speaker A: Okay. [00:26:45] Speaker B: All right, go ahead. I still think it's somewhat. [00:26:48] Speaker A: You think it's never paid off for anybody? [00:26:49] Speaker B: No, no, it's. It's definitely paid off for some. [00:26:52] Speaker A: But you couldn't call it a scam then because it could scam some people. But ideally, I mean, the entire thing is just not a scam in general because it has paid off for some. So let's say. Let's say. We're not saying that, but what. What we're saying is you ain't got to go spend all this debt and time and doing all of this. [00:27:12] Speaker B: Yes. You do not have to go ahead. [00:27:14] Speaker A: And you can still make a good living, successful living, doing, doing it without it. So. [00:27:19] Speaker B: Absolutely. [00:27:19] Speaker A: But let's say for just a second here, a little bit of role play, if you will. Let's say that what you're saying isn't true. Now this is, this is kind of how I view it, okay? Let's say what you're saying isn't true and college is, is great, okay? And if you go to college for whatever, there's a million things you can go to college for. I'm not talking, we're not talking like technical college here. We're talking, you know, bachelor degrees and whatever, associate degrees and stuff like that. So more of your office and those kind of jobs and type stuff. So let's say you do take that path and that's the way you go and you get your degree, you get out, you start working and then you got this guy who doesn't, who just goes to work, okay? Now this works out and you are making a bunch of money. This works out and you're making a little bit of money, okay? And let's say it's not the way it is right now. And think about that guy who has maybe he works for a place for 10, 15 years or whatever and he's finally paid off his student debt and he's doing decent on making money now or whatever. And maybe he does have an apartment, whatever, still don't have a house, but he's been successful enough within like 10 years. Pay all the debt off or whatever else. And maybe I'm totally wrong about that and you can pay the debt off in no time, dude, that you're talking about. Terrible. Well, anyway, let me keep going. Let me keep going real quick, real quick. I'll make this, I'll end this here in just a second. So let's say all that's right, though. So this guy's here and you're here, okay? But maybe this guy's got a home because he decided to buy a house instead of rent because he's not trying to pay two loans, right? So maybe he's got a house, so maybe that gives him a leg up already. Maybe it's not as nice as this guy's going to be able to buy. But think about you're. If you're making all this extra money and you're making this much money, but think about all the other skills and different things you learn here. So I've got this house, my pops mess Up, I replace them. I've got this house, my electrical messes up, I fix it. I've got this car and it tears up. I work on it and I fix it. [00:29:40] Speaker B: Absolutely. [00:29:41] Speaker A: You know, this guy has shelled out all that money to have somebody else do it because he's never learned anything. [00:29:47] Speaker B: Absolutely right. [00:29:48] Speaker A: So. So even assuming that that' that theory could be the way it's, you know, pushed down your throat, that's where I was going wrong in that. Even at. Because. [00:29:58] Speaker B: Because even that you make this much money and I make this much money, this dude that makes this much money spends this much money on fixing repairs, doing everything that he has no idea what to do. And then it puts you right back in the same category to start with. That's what I'm saying. [00:30:17] Speaker A: Right. Even saying that this blue collar job can't go here, which. Which obviously they can. Yeah. And they do fine. [00:30:24] Speaker B: Well, that's another thing is, is the young folk they have. I mean, if some young guy comes working for me, I can tell you he ain't going to be put at the top right off the rip. We didn't start at the top. [00:30:36] Speaker A: Nobody will. [00:30:37] Speaker B: Nobody's going to start at the top. But you can't sit there and even work it. [00:30:40] Speaker A: They expect to be. [00:30:42] Speaker B: I know they do. But you can't sit there and work in a business even for five years and think that you should be at the top. I don't even know what world you live in that you think that that's even correct. I believe there is a ladder that goes up with the business after five years. But you can't going in a place and expecting to make what the dude that's been there for 30 years, they're. [00:31:03] Speaker A: Not going to look at the other employees that they have and go, sorry, man, yeah, I'm going to put this other guy in front of you. It's not going to happen. [00:31:09] Speaker B: No, I know that. But that's what they expect. That. Why do they even expect something like that? That just. [00:31:15] Speaker A: I will blow your mind. I'm gonna blow your mind. [00:31:17] Speaker B: I please do. [00:31:19] Speaker A: You've been throwing all these numbers at me, so please do. I'm not. This ain't numbers. This is society. This is gonna blow your mind about this. Okay. The world we live in. I think what I'm about to tell you is unheard of. Don't exist. I caught a unicorn. This weekend or this week? This week. [00:31:36] Speaker B: Okay. I've never seen one. [00:31:38] Speaker A: I found one. Dang. Okay. [00:31:39] Speaker B: Okay. Seriously, I'm ready. [00:31:41] Speaker A: Ready. Okay. So I'm working one of these days this week and I have this kid walk in, comes in, he's got an appointment to get an oil change actually. So he comes in, you say kid. [00:31:52] Speaker B: As in we're talking like 18 or. [00:31:54] Speaker A: Like I'm gonna get there. Okay, okay. This should give you hope for humanity. This should get, give everyone hope for humanity. Okay, so this kid walks in, the girl I work with actually knows him. Hey, how you doing? You know, and she was like, he's got an application. So I just waited around there until he got done getting written up for the oil change that he was there for. So this is a 19 year old kid, by the way. I hired this kid and I don't really even have a spot for him. I did it knowing from a number standpoint I didn't need to do it. But from a possibility standpoint, I was like, man, I need to do this regardless. Like I'm throwing everything out the window to take a chance here, see what kind of kid this kid is. Right. Well, after interviewing and talking to him and obviously after, that's when we decided on something, I hired him. But 19 year old kid, he's a youth pastor at a church in Knoxville and works at a drug coalition in middle Tennessee two days a week. He was looking for a four day a week job that would work with his schedule. [00:33:01] Speaker B: Wow. [00:33:02] Speaker A: How about that? [00:33:02] Speaker B: Wow. [00:33:03] Speaker A: Now is that not unheard of? When I shook his hand, good handshake. Matter of fact, sitting in the interview, which was probably 30 minutes long of me and him talking, I stopped the interview and told him the story of you, Neil, at your interview at Matlock's. [00:33:24] Speaker B: Oh, really? [00:33:25] Speaker A: I sure did. I stopped him in the middle of it because it reminded me so much of it. [00:33:30] Speaker B: Yeah. You know. Yeah, so that's pretty good. [00:33:33] Speaker A: Oh yeah. That ought to give everybody some kind of hope that there's somebody out there. [00:33:38] Speaker B: It's funny that you said hope because. [00:33:39] Speaker A: Driven and trying to do right because. [00:33:41] Speaker B: Sometimes as a, you know, as a Jesus believer. I went to church Sunday, so good. I went to my sister's church and my brother in law and my nephews was getting baptized. And we get, and this is a whole, this is where I'm going with this for hope still. And I thought I looked at this church and it's a, it's a pretty good sized church. It's a 400 to 500 seater, you know, it's a pretty good sized church. [00:34:13] Speaker A: That's massive to me. [00:34:14] Speaker B: Well, no, well, say to me, yeah, it's Big. Like my church is 100, 100 to 150, you know, probably at max. [00:34:22] Speaker A: That's pretty good size. [00:34:24] Speaker B: But the church absolutely blew my mind. The pastor was amazing, the service was amazing, the music. What got me was the kids where at my church. There's nothing wrong with my church. It's just everything's different. But you think because you don't get outside your box or your window that everything's the same as what you see from day to day. So when you get outside your window and these very moving, emotional time of baptism and stuff. But to see these kids over here. While music was playing, the kids had their hands up in the air. They were. Some of them hitting the floor. Some of them were hitting the floor, kneeling and praying. Right there where they were at. I'm talking like kids. It's like 6 or, I'm sorry, 8 to 14, 18 years old. I mean, it was just. And they would just. It was all at different times. It wasn't like they were sitting there watching each other. Three of them hit the same, you know, at the same time. But to see that. That they're still like getting out of your. Getting out of. Out of that. And seeing that, I was like, okay, so maybe they are still hope that. That we're not going in the wrong direction, you know, and. But seeing the young folk, like, stepping up and trying to make something happen. Like that guy, you know. Yeah. [00:36:01] Speaker A: And at that drug holders thing, what he's doing is he's mentoring junior and senior high school students to two different ways. One part of it was mental as far as, like, freshmen's coming in, you know, not to be hard on them and stuff like that. They need as good of a shot as anybody gets. And, you know, and then the other parts, drugs and things like that and staying away from all of that. But I'm a firm believer in, you know, there is a lot of good in this world. A lot of good. We just see so much bad. It's just shoved in your face to, you know, try to turn everybody. So I feel like, you know, that sometimes overshadows everything. But you see good things and it gives you hope and it makes you think back, like, maybe everything's not as bad as you think it is. I mean, just like, you know, everybody used to say, you know, you could. You could cut a deal on a handshake. Right. You know, your handshake meant something. Okay, well, you know, or a man's word meant something. I gave away a couple of weeks ago at work about $300 worth of work. A guy couldn't afford an entire bill when I went to, to tell him about it. And instead, and we were fixing to have a snow, ended up getting 6, 10 inches in different places. But this guy in particular is on Social Security. He's living out of his car. There was no doubt about it. He didn't have to tell you to know it, but his car was basically his shelter, you know, and the bill was more than he could afford. And I was, I literally was going to ask him if he could afford half of it. I would allow him to come back and pay the other half when he could afford it, knowing good and well that I may have to just pay it if he don't show back up. But it's, it's. I would rather have to Pay, you know, $400 then know that I read about this dude on the news that died in his car freezing. You know, I would rather paid that than read that. So I was okay with it either way. But he, he walked back in yesterday. So since then, unfortunate thing happened where the vehicle was towed back in. We actually paid the tow bill for him because he couldn't afford that and it was for a totally different situation, but the transmission actually went out on it. So he. And he ain't gon spend that kind of money to fix it. Plus we don't do that. But the guy actually got a ride and came back into work yesterday and paid the other half. [00:38:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:36] Speaker A: Just on a word. [00:38:37] Speaker B: There you go. There's still hope. [00:38:39] Speaker A: Your word still means something. Sometimes a handshake may still mean something and there are younger generations of people who still want to do the right thing. You know, I think, I think because of teachers, government, social media, you name it, all of these things that have, like you said, crammed college in down our throats. Luckily there are some of us that have not listened to that or really it's probably because we didn't have the work ethic to do schoolwork. Really. Yeah, that's what mine was. [00:39:16] Speaker B: I mean, well, us, the few that I mentioned, like, we were not technically, we was not built to do being a school another. We're hands on. I mean everything we do is hands on. All the guys I mentioned is hands on. We just. Everything's hands on. Yeah. So you know, going back to that, you know, the teachers, you know, I just see these guys now. They come in my, in my store and I see them and I'm like, man, you know, just hearing what the teacher said to them and stuff no encouragement, no nothing. Don't even know the kid's story, you know, and then they're going to sit there and cram that crap out of them, you know, and he walks in my store and he's got a, he's got a ninety thousand dollar truck. He's got his own business. He, he's got two businesses now that I'm assuming Cody does. [00:40:23] Speaker A: I quit one to do the other. [00:40:24] Speaker B: Oh, did he? Okay, well, anyways, that's great. [00:40:27] Speaker A: But he's always got that to fall back on if he needs. Absolutely no, so. [00:40:31] Speaker B: But there again, it's hard work. It's, it's, it's rough work doing either one of those. Either one. And then you got Michael doing his own thing, you know, I remember him being really hard on Michael. I mean, very Miller. [00:40:49] Speaker A: Oh yeah, he moved. He moved Telco. [00:40:52] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. He comes by the store some, you know, still, but. But I remember being really hard on him. So I just say that I'm like, I'm not, I'm not against college, but do you believe, like if you think about it right now, we possibly could have just been done paying our student loans off? I mean, does that not blow your mind? We've been out of school for. We've been out of school for almost 20 years. [00:41:22] Speaker A: I'll tell you, I ain't got no student loans. I'm paying, but. So I broke my shoulder last year. My wife had a gallbladder surgery. Between that and kids being in and out of the doctor and whatever else, I spent 9,000, almost $10,000 last year on doctor bills with health insurance. Golly, that's half the freaking building I'm trying to get right now. I'm like, golly. So that's what I'm saying. [00:41:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:41:50] Speaker A: And what do I have to show for it? You know, she don't have a gallbladder. She had something taken away from her. And my shoulder still hurts. I mean, you know it, but whatever. It ended up healing on its friggin own. You know that. But still. [00:42:09] Speaker B: The whole reason is I, that I'll even mention something about those, those guys and us, that we didn't go to college, you know, because we did start early with, with life. I did. But I don't know what is up with this generation now because the generation, like I said, they're still good. That dude that you hired, that's great. But there's still a lot more. For some reason, there's a lot more worse than they are good. [00:42:37] Speaker A: He's going to college too. I didn't even say that he does. [00:42:39] Speaker B: Online stuff, but there's a lot worse than they are. Good. Because these kids that are still staying at mom and dads until they're. I mean, my thought was when I was in, when I was in high school, how fast I could get out of my mom and daddy's house. [00:42:57] Speaker A: Mine wasn't. Mine was. I've got to be ready because they're going to throw me out. Well, even though, even though I don't know if they would have done that or not. I had the fear of they could, you know, I got to be able to do that. [00:43:09] Speaker B: I didn't think mom and dad was going to throw me out, but I didn't. Like, I won't say that, but I did. Well, yeah, I didn't like living under my mom and dad. When I turned 18, I wanted to do my own thing. So saying that as soon as I got out of high school, bought my house. It was an unfinished home. Bought it. But I don't know where that drive has left this younger generation to where they want to live with mom and dad until they're 30 years old. [00:43:47] Speaker A: They baby them too much. That's all it is. Well, you don't want to be around somebody that's hard on you. You want to be you. You want to be around somebody that's going to baby and give you. [00:43:56] Speaker B: I don't. But even that generation, even. So we're talking about, we're talking about, okay, somebody who's 20 years old and we're, we're pushing, we're pushing 40 now. [00:44:07] Speaker A: Say it. That's fine. [00:44:09] Speaker B: 40. We're pushing 40 now. But I'm just saying our generation was not like that. So where does, where did it, where did it fall off at that. Our age? People that are having kids that might be 16, 18 years old, because we have a few that are pushing, that had kids when they were 20 years right out of high school or daring during high school. But even before then, where did that age. Where does that at? To where these 40 and 50 year old moms and dads ain't saying, get out of my house. And where did that miss? How did we miss that? Somewhere. And I get it, like if, if, if, you know, because everybody be like, oh, yeah, well, if you're, if it was your kid, yes, I would help my kid, absolutely. But you ain't gonna sit there for five years and act like you ain't gonna do nothing or try to do something. You know what I mean? I'm gonna Help you. [00:45:06] Speaker A: That's more than that. 30 years old. You're 18. That's 12 years. [00:45:10] Speaker B: I'm just saying, I'm not, not even that. I'm just saying like, even if they're 24 or 25, you're gonna help your kid to get to that point, to where they need to be. [00:45:20] Speaker A: There's a difference between helping and enabling. [00:45:22] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I know. [00:45:23] Speaker A: You know, I just. That's where the line gets drawn that people cross. And then the next thing you know, I'm just thinking you're doing things that. [00:45:29] Speaker B: Ain'T helping them 40 to 60 year old parents that, I mean, they wanted to get out of the house when they. At their age, I'm assuming. [00:45:39] Speaker A: Yes, they did. [00:45:40] Speaker B: Yeah. I just, I mean. [00:45:43] Speaker A: Well, it's harder than it ever was though. [00:45:45] Speaker B: I know that. [00:45:46] Speaker A: That's. That's part of it. I'm sure. [00:45:47] Speaker B: I know that. But I could, I could even think even on a. I'm going to say a. If you budget, if you budget your money on a. And not a very frivolous life, you know, lifestyle. If you budget your money, you're going to get. You could live on a 38 to $40,000 salary. [00:46:13] Speaker A: I'm gonna tell you something right now. I'm gonna get on these kids side for just a second here. Okay, Go ahead, just a second, go. [00:46:18] Speaker B: Ahead, get on that kid's side. [00:46:19] Speaker A: Because I'm gonna tell you what I would do here, okay? Because there's no way in the world that I'm gonna try to move out of my mom and dad's house right after I turn 18. When I may. If I, if I had a job that paid me good enough for that was like 1500. I can make like 1500 bucks every two weeks. That's $3000 a month and it's gonna cost me $2000 to rent a freaking apartment. [00:46:43] Speaker B: Okay, there you go. There you go. [00:46:44] Speaker A: And then I don't have a car or I can't afford a car payment and insurance and utility. What are you gonna do? Move out to move back in? [00:46:51] Speaker B: 2,000 is a little exaggerated. 2,000 is. [00:46:54] Speaker A: They're out there. [00:46:56] Speaker B: 2,000 are. But so is 850 where. [00:47:02] Speaker A: You can. [00:47:02] Speaker B: Go any county right now and I guarantee you can get. You, you may have to room with somebody. [00:47:07] Speaker A: Yeah, there's an option. [00:47:08] Speaker B: I'm just saying. But if you want to get out and do it, you can get out and do it. [00:47:11] Speaker A: I'm saying cost. [00:47:12] Speaker B: You don't even have to. You don't even have to room with somebody. You can get an apartment for 900 bucks. You can do it any county surrounding our county. I guarantee you can get an apartment for that price, guaranteed. It may not be the best apartment, but. I'm just saying. I was just watching. [00:47:29] Speaker A: So would that be the best thing for you? [00:47:31] Speaker B: It's better than mom and dad's. I don't care. [00:47:33] Speaker A: I ain't getting an apartment on freaking Cherry street for $900. [00:47:37] Speaker B: Cherry Street. You could go, right? You could leave here and go into Madisonville. [00:47:45] Speaker A: You'd have to split it. That's all there is to it, I'm telling you right now. [00:47:48] Speaker B: I don't believe that. I don't believe it. I could budget $40,000. If I was by myself, I could budget myself $40,000 and I could make. I could make it happen, I guarantee. [00:48:01] Speaker A: Am I exaggerating? But you're not 18 years old, though. That's what I'm telling you. They ain't got the same mindset you do or the discipline or anything else. [00:48:14] Speaker B: We did. [00:48:16] Speaker A: No, the money was different then. [00:48:18] Speaker B: How was it any different? [00:48:20] Speaker A: I was only making because the housing has went up so much and the pay has not went up that much. [00:48:27] Speaker B: I wasn't even making. I was making like $2,800. $2,800 a month. [00:48:36] Speaker A: Okay. [00:48:36] Speaker B: That's all I was making. [00:48:38] Speaker A: How much was your house payment? 4 to 600 bucks. [00:48:43] Speaker B: 680 something dollars. [00:48:46] Speaker A: There you go. [00:48:48] Speaker B: So that's only, that's only $250 more. [00:48:52] Speaker A: You're. If you looked it up, you can. [00:48:54] Speaker B: Go down here to McDonald's and work for $17 an hour. I've never made $17 an hour in my life. [00:49:00] Speaker A: But they're not gonna do that. Yeah, yeah, 17 an hour. They'll put you work for 28 hours that week. [00:49:07] Speaker B: I'm just. Well, no, wait, wait, wait. You don't have to go to McDonald's, but you can go to. You can go somewhere at $17. [00:49:15] Speaker A: You can go to the factory. All I'm saying is, is I'm not moving out of my mom dad's house. If I've got to pay $2,000 a month and I'm only making 3,000, I'll wait two more years and have me a little nest egg, Nindo. That's what I'm saying. [00:49:27] Speaker B: Okay, that's fine. Okay, Whatever. [00:49:30] Speaker A: I'm not waiting 12 years till I'm 30 to do it, I'll tell you that. [00:49:34] Speaker B: I, I just, I've heard that so much. To where? You know, if you do it right. You can, you can do it. If you budget, you can do it. [00:49:45] Speaker A: Yeah, you can eat. [00:49:48] Speaker B: But if you don't want to do it, if you don't want to do it, then you're going to live with your mama. [00:49:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:49:53] Speaker B: You know, and I still like. I'm going to encourage you to get out of my house. When my kids get of age, I believe I'm going to be encouraging them to get out of my house and learn a work ethic. I mean it's just the only way you're going to make it. You can't be living off of government without trying to do something. If you need assistance. [00:50:14] Speaker A: Living off of government, what the heck. [00:50:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:17] Speaker A: Kids ain't gonna be living off of government. [00:50:19] Speaker B: No, I'm not. My kids, I'm talking about in general today. Other people. [00:50:24] Speaker A: Are there kids out there that are like 18 years old living off of government. How are they doing that? [00:50:29] Speaker B: Disabilities that, that, that you know or some. I know some kids right now that are very young. It's. That's drawing a social. Social Security. [00:50:38] Speaker A: Yeah, but how long they gonna last? Their whole lives? [00:50:42] Speaker B: Undoubtedly. Undoubtedly their whole life. If they've got a disability, they're already. [00:50:47] Speaker A: Drawn it at 4 years ability where you came live on your own. What are you talking about? I'm just saying. [00:50:54] Speaker B: I know that. Well, I'm just saying though, all I'm meaning is where. I mean I just, I've missed it somewhere where the family, the mom and dad just aren't encouraging their. [00:51:09] Speaker A: It's harder than it was to move out on your own now and make it on your own than it was when we were 18. That's 100% fact. [00:51:17] Speaker B: Yes, that is a hundred percent. [00:51:18] Speaker A: Gas is higher. Groceries is higher. Internet bills are higher. Phone bills. [00:51:22] Speaker B: You don't have to have Internet. [00:51:23] Speaker A: You remember when I used to. You remember when I used to. [00:51:25] Speaker B: You don't have to have Internet. [00:51:26] Speaker A: I get that. I get that. I'm going to go ahead and tell you something right now. Alex is not letting Coop move out of that house without a way to contact her and talk to her. It ain't going to happen. Of course, look at how much a phone cost. They used to give him freaking things away to you. If you decide a phone, go buy a track phone. If you decide a go buy a track phone. I don't know what that is. [00:51:46] Speaker B: A track phone. [00:51:47] Speaker A: I don't know what it is. [00:51:48] Speaker B: 24.99Amonth. You can get some minutes on that. [00:51:51] Speaker A: Joker like a burner phone. Does it have Anything on it? Way to track you? Does that have a way to track you? [00:51:56] Speaker B: Well, of course it does. Every cell phone's got a way to track you. [00:51:59] Speaker A: Okay. [00:52:00] Speaker B: I just. [00:52:01] Speaker A: I don't know. I just. [00:52:02] Speaker B: I just can't. I just cannot get on board with that. I cannot. I don't go. Okay, but you have to be motivated. You have to be. You have to be motivated. But I don't. Where. Where was it though? Okay. Okay. Take this. [00:52:18] Speaker A: You're asking the question. No, no, no, no, no, no. [00:52:20] Speaker B: Take this, take this. Wait just a minute. Why, at 18 years old, what has changed? Besides the cost of everything? What has changed between me and you at 18 and these people now at 18? I feel like a lot of it is the technology that's in front of you 100%. The technology that's in front of you, the phone that you have in your hand, the. The being able to see anything you want to see right there on that phone or on that. On that computer or on your phone. You get all your gratification. Any sort of satisfaction that you want, you can get from your cell phone or your, you know, say anything for. But. But for us. I just don't know where an 18 to 20 year old don't want to be like, I gotta get. Y' all gotta change something. You know, I just. I don't know. But taking the money, taking the money. [00:53:22] Speaker A: Out of the scenario you asked, what's changed? [00:53:25] Speaker B: Why does kids not want to try to get out of there and do that? Besides the money. I get that. I get that. But they can go out and get a job that pays a whole lot more than we even. We started at $7. I started at 3:50 an hour at Virgil's. You started at $7? [00:53:44] Speaker A: It was 5 something. 5.755 dollars. [00:53:46] Speaker B: You can go down here to these factories and make $22 and they're busting at the. You can just. You can just walk right through the door and get a job. So I can't. [00:53:58] Speaker A: You asked what's changed? [00:54:00] Speaker B: What's changed? What has changed? [00:54:02] Speaker A: I think that all those kids you're talking about, I don't think they're getting whippings no more. [00:54:07] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, I'm sure they're not. [00:54:08] Speaker A: Okay. I don't think they're getting whippings anymore. [00:54:12] Speaker B: Mom and dad got whooping neither. [00:54:14] Speaker A: They might be right. And I think that makes a difference. I don't think they're getting told no. [00:54:19] Speaker B: No. [00:54:19] Speaker A: Well, I think. I think that that makes a difference because what, what happens when you try to hire somebody young, and you tell them, no, no, and fits don't work at work. It worked at the house. But that's the way they know how to deal with no. And I don't think they go to church anymore. [00:54:35] Speaker B: Yeah, that's where I was going with that. [00:54:38] Speaker A: But I think that's your three problems right there. [00:54:41] Speaker B: That's where I was going with that earlier. But see there again, because I still feel like the whole church thing, there is a movement going on right now to where there's people searching and looking. [00:54:56] Speaker A: For something because there's no freaking hope in the world. And they can see it now. So they got to find something with a little bit of inspiration. But it took everything getting worse to have a little bit of a turn right there. [00:55:05] Speaker B: I know. I know. Every year since. I know. I just don't. I don't. I don't know. I was. I'm just so. That's the only thing that I'd really like, and that worries me a little bit. I'm just like, where does people not. Where did they. I mean, what are they? Because you got to get started. You got to get started on life, man. [00:55:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:55:24] Speaker B: You have to. And today is not like a. Today's not a thing to where you're. You know, a lot of households now are double income. They have to be double income. Okay. To have all the amenities of everybody else. All. Everybody else has the. You've got Internet. I've got Internet. My neighbor's got Internet. You know, they've got streaming services. You got streaming services. Well, you don't have to. Everybody says you have to do the double income. I still do not. I can't get on board with that. [00:56:02] Speaker A: I hear you. I know. [00:56:03] Speaker B: I mean, we're. We're talking. I mean, I get it. I get it, but I'm still. Now. Now, if you are a family of. I'm a family of five, you're a family of four. You technically could probably. I mean, I don't. It's just your living conditions, but I mean. Because my cousin always tells me, you know, just what. Basically what you're saying, you just. You can't afford. You can't afford it right now. You can't afford housing. You can't afford insurance. You can't. This, this, this, and this. You know, you can't do all these things, but. [00:56:35] Speaker A: Well, we do. [00:56:36] Speaker B: Well, we do. Well, I mean. Yeah, me and you do. [00:56:38] Speaker A: And more. [00:56:38] Speaker B: Yeah, there's. There's a whole lot more. But I struggle with that, you know, because if You're. If you're at 30 years old and you're still living with your mom and dad and now you're married and you've got your. You've got your husband or wife and your kids in there or whatever, like you really need to, you know. [00:57:02] Speaker A: Yeah, there's a problem. [00:57:04] Speaker B: Yeah, there isn't absolutely a problem because. And the mom and dad have. If they have this thing to where they're holding on to their babies and we don't want to let them go and, you know, that sort of thing. You got cut. You got to cut that crap out. I mean, it just. It ain't. It ain't. [00:57:22] Speaker A: There's an answer is what's wrong. That's probably what everybody's doing. [00:57:25] Speaker B: Well, golly, you're raising up. You're actually going to raise up like a. You're going to raise up a failure if you're not careful. [00:57:34] Speaker A: Oh, absolutely. [00:57:35] Speaker B: You're going to raise up a failure. I mean, it's just, It's a fact. [00:57:39] Speaker A: I. I say you don't hire as much as I do. Like, you've got your little core group and that's really all it takes to run. You know, I've got several. And you know how, like, tire turnover can be. I mean, that's a hard, dirty, hot job. Repetition, repetitious job. That, that it's hard to do and not for the best pay in the world. So it's hard. So I'll. I will run through people and it took me several years to find the guys that I have found that's worth spending some money on to keep around because, my gosh, it's. The workforce is so bad. [00:58:17] Speaker B: So bad it is. [00:58:18] Speaker A: Or needed. I saw where all these dealerships, you know, they're needing. So, like, I don't know if you know, because you didn't work at a dealer and I didn't work at a dealer, but I've been told this is how it works. You know, if you bring your vehicle into a dealership and there is a problem going on with it that say the techs cannot figure out, okay, they're supposed to try this or try that, and then they, they can get on the phone with the engineers so they can figure out how it works to find the problem, and then if they can't find the problem, the engineers will come out and fix it. Right. Okay. I seen a. I think it was a T TikTok video or something where there are no engineers to do that with because they're all in the field now. They're coming into these shops and staying there because they can't find the technicians to fix the cars. [00:59:13] Speaker B: Yeah, well, you know, okay, so. So as everybody knows, we used to work on cars, but as a. And you would, you would be. You can kind of fill me in if I'm a little wrong on this. In the automotive industry, I feel like we are going to be like, if some of these younger guys just like the dude you just hired, if that dude don't, I don't know if that's what he wants to do, you know, for long term, but these guys that are, you know, I've, We've. How many times. Well, when I worked at the shop, how many times my boss come up and said, this guy's going to, this guy's going to come in here and start taking your money, you know, or trying to, you know, but how many times did that person ever come in and start taking your money? I don't know that. I can't name any of them. I can't name any of them. And I was probably told that, well, Luke would have. Yeah, Luke would have. Yeah, Luke. Luke would have. Yeah, Luke would have. And what was the other guy's name that come with? Luke. I liked him. Corbin. I liked him. [01:00:19] Speaker A: Yeah. He wasn't there as long as though we had one more from that college that was real good. But, but they were just there temporarily and going back home where they were actually from. [01:00:28] Speaker B: Co op. It was almost like a co op. [01:00:29] Speaker A: Yeah. And it was out of a college. College. But like, those guys had the potential. [01:00:33] Speaker B: To be able to do it, but those other guys that we had, they're. [01:00:36] Speaker A: Probably doing it where they used to. [01:00:37] Speaker B: Live, you know, or where they, I, I just. If they don't step up, if the younger generation don't step up, or these old, you know, I don't want to go back to wrenching. You don't want to go back to wrenching. But if these dudes don't step up, these dudes that are currently wrenching, boom, dust. And these guys, they might be making just as much as a dang doctor because labor rates keep climbing, parts keep climbing, and to keep him at your store, you gonna have to pay him some money. I mean, you're gonna have to pay him some money. So if a dude's making, I don't know, I don't know what the going rate is now, but if you're paying a really good technician 80 to $120,000 a year, I don't know if that's the case? I don't have any idea. But if they're making that kind of money, it's going to continue to climb because these dudes ain't going to just keep doing it forever. Either you start paying them really good or they're going to go find something else to do. Because these other jobs that were so bottom of the barrel or wasn't, you. [01:01:45] Speaker A: Know, they don't seem so bad now. [01:01:47] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. [01:01:48] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I hear you. And one thing, one thing that, that maybe the outside world, automotive understands or knows this to an extent. But I'll tell you, even the, the automotive world doesn't know this. Like the guys in it don't. They won't admit it or just can't see it for themselves and. But there's a big difference. You can be a really good mechanic and know how to do a job real well and make good money just doing that, but that doesn't mean you can work on everything. And that doesn't make you a diagnostician. [01:02:22] Speaker B: No, absolutely not. [01:02:23] Speaker A: I mean there's a huge difference in what I can do, you know, which is all of your hard part type stuff, you know. But then there's a big difference in some sort of an electrical or drivability issue. Yeah, yeah, Diagnostic, big time difference. And usually this person can dabble a little bit in this but kind of scratch the surface and that's really as comfortable as they really are. [01:02:47] Speaker B: Absolutely, yeah. [01:02:48] Speaker A: That's the two big differences right there. [01:02:50] Speaker B: No, I agree with that. Absolutely. [01:02:52] Speaker A: And somewhere sprinkled in that is probably your transmission and your differential type people because that takes some experience to know what to do there too. So you've got all of this, you got this and then kind of this, this, this. Then they're all different people. Everybody's got their own skill sets. [01:03:12] Speaker B: And with a shop like that, that we used to work, that I used to work at, I mean Sky's is the limit if you want to. [01:03:19] Speaker A: The more you can learn, the more money you can make. [01:03:22] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. You know, the more field, you know, you can make that 80 to 100,000 if you want to, if you want to dive, if you want to do it. But it ain't, it's not gonna be. I don't think it needs to be given to you by no means, you know, just because you started, you know. [01:03:38] Speaker A: We all work for it, every one of us that you've named or that we've worked with or anybody that's still there, you know, whether it be maybe somebody's worked harder than somebody else. But regardless, you know, me, you, Boom, Dustin Brody, all of us have worked for it. [01:03:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:03:57] Speaker A: And been dedicated and worked a long time. And loyal when we were there. [01:04:02] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Well, I just. [01:04:04] Speaker A: But the generation don't see that. They don't see it. They don't understand it. They don't know it. [01:04:09] Speaker B: They want that instant gratification. Whether it's the instant gratification on their phone, that's what's kind of ruined it all. They want that immediate fix. Oh, well, I can walk into this shop and I can make $65,000 a year. No, Yang, it ain't gonna happen. You can't walk into a shop unless you're good, you know? You know, unless you have. [01:04:30] Speaker A: Unless you have experience. Basically. [01:04:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:04:32] Speaker A: It's just because you've been shown how to do it don't mean you can do it. [01:04:34] Speaker B: But anyways, I just. I don't know. There's a little bit of a round, a couple little topics there. [01:04:41] Speaker A: I just. You know, and I'm sure whatever it is anybody's watching does. You all probably got similar top situations that you can relate to on this, but all we know is automotive. [01:04:54] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. But I just. I don't know the whole this. I just. Like you said, though, we just. I need to. Younger generation needs to. You know, I think I need to try a little harder. I mean, I'm just. I'm just saying I'm not. I mean, for sure, you worked really hard. I've worked really hard. I just think they really need to push a little. Just. Just a little bit harder would go a long way. [01:05:21] Speaker A: The work ethics. Pretty poor. And I think all it would take is a little bit for them to see how much it makes a difference and then it would change things too. [01:05:28] Speaker B: Well, that's. [01:05:28] Speaker A: We. [01:05:29] Speaker B: And I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm up for. For helping you and trying to make you what you. What you might want to try to become or be, you know, But. But you gotta. You gotta want it. [01:05:40] Speaker A: I tell you what, we're not gonna change the world tonight, so. [01:05:44] Speaker B: Well, I guess not. [01:05:46] Speaker A: Guys, thanks for hanging out on the second floor with us again. Please, like, share, subscribe. We appreciate everything and everybody watching. Thanks so much. [01:05:55] Speaker B: We'll see you next time Monday, guys. Tune back in with us. See y'. All.